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Post by Pulpmariachi on Nov 14, 2005 17:20:00 GMT -5
Just finished 2001: A Space Odyssey.
Only the biggest space epic ever.
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Post by frankenjohn on Nov 15, 2005 6:01:21 GMT -5
It was both TEMPLE OF DOOM and GREMLINS that caused the need for PG-13. However, those two films are still rated PG to this date. The first PG-13 to be given a rating was actually some New World flick that I think was called something like "The Zoo Kids." And I'm pretty sure "Red Dawn" was the first to be released.
The 1968 original ratings were G, M, R, and X. Then it was G, GP, R, and X. Then it was G, GP, GP*, R, and X. Then it was G, PG, R, and X. Then it was G, PG, PG-13, R, and X. Then, it was G, PG, PG-13, R, and NC-17.
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Post by Quorthon on Nov 15, 2005 8:45:53 GMT -5
What was the reasoning behind changing X to NC-17? Was it that X was too often associated with porn?
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Nov 15, 2005 9:03:04 GMT -5
What was the reasoning behind changing X to NC-17? Was it that X was too often associated with porn? Exactly. Yeah, TEMPLE OF DOOM & GREMLINS came out the same summer and both were criticized by parents for having scenes that were way too dark/intense for a PG movie. Child slavery and a heart torn from a chest in TEMPLE and Gremlins pureed in a blender and fried until they explode in a microwave. And yeah, RED DAWN was the first to be released with the PG-13 rating. Back on topic. I just watched: SPANGLISH (2004) Pretty good, not great. A little longer than it needs to be though by about 15-20 minutes. I think I would've prefered to see a movie about just the Mexican mom and her daughter, who were both excellent, and not have to deal with Tea Leoni's neurotic character. 7/10
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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 15, 2005 9:57:05 GMT -5
Well, last night was supposed to be The Shining, but I got roped into baby-sitting my neighbors kids, so that went to hell, so I showed them Poltergeist instead, and still got one film off my list anyway. Review of that one coming later today. Also saw the new George Carlin special Life is Worth Losing, and it was hysterical. After seeing it live and seeing it on TV, my crowd was much more receptive to him, but it was still good. I mean, how can you not like a special with necrophiliac jokes? Tomorrow, Moustoppha Akkad day, so a review of all the Halloween movies coming as well. No one post them, I will, I call it!!!
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Post by 42ndstreetfreak on Nov 15, 2005 12:30:29 GMT -5
A mixture of all out crass Exploitation and grim, realistic squaler in the form of Nazispolitation offering "Deported Women of the SS Special Section", which has a truly warped, deliciously wicked and generally wonderful performance by Euro Sleaze fave John Steiner.
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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 15, 2005 12:40:54 GMT -5
Wow, I didn't know you were into that, 42nd. I pictured you as more of a John Waters type, judging from your banner. Have you ever seen the Naziploitation film SS Love Camp? It's probably one of the most brutal of the Nazi films around, and only recently became unbanned in England.
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Post by Termination on Nov 15, 2005 13:10:46 GMT -5
Found & saved this for reference though it doesn't mention any films in particular;
Upon its introduction in 1968, the Rating System had a four level scale:
G - General audiences. All ages admitted. M - Mature audiences. Parental guidance suggested, but all ages admitted. R - Restricted. Children under 16 would not be admitted without an accompanying parent or adult guardian. The limit was later raised to 17 years of age, which varies in some jurisdictions. X - No one under 17 admitted, under any circumstances. Filmmakers who chose to not submit their movie for review could label the film with an "X". Soon after the ratings were introduced, it was discovered that people misunderstood the "M" rating and were regarding it as being harsher than "R". This misconception was addressed by renaming "M" to "PG - Parental Guidance".
By 1984, it was realized that some films were too intense for very young viewers but didn't warrant the much harsher "R" rating. This concern was addressed with the introduction of the "PG-13" rating, meant to caution parents that a film features content that may not be appropriate for viewers under the age of 13.
In 1990 the "X" rating was replaced by "NC-17 - No one 17 and under admitted". It was felt that because "X-Rated" was a phrase that had become associated with the pornography industry, the MPAA should introduce a new "Adult only" rating that would allow filmmakers to make films for an adult audience without the stigma attached to the "X".
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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 15, 2005 13:29:42 GMT -5
I had heard something similar to this happened, but I couldn't remember it. Thanks for that, Term, and you're forgiven about the Hitchcock argument.
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Post by Quorthon on Nov 15, 2005 14:23:22 GMT -5
Well, last night was supposed to be The Shining, but I got roped into baby-sitting my neighbors kids, so that went to hell, so I showed them Poltergeist instead, and still got one film off my list anyway. Review of that one coming later today. Also saw the new George Carlin special Life is Worth Losing, and it was hysterical. After seeing it live and seeing it on TV, my crowd was much more receptive to him, but it was still good. I mean, how can you not like a special with necrophiliac jokes? Tomorrow, Moustoppha Akkad day, so a review of all the Halloween movies coming as well. No one post them, I will, I call it!!! I thought that Carlin special wasn't too bad, but I was disappointed to see him rope Bush and Cheney into that set. He's better than to take cheap-shots like that--Bush-bashing is damn-near a national past-time these days--Carlin's smarter than to just follow the crowd with that shit. Also, he shouldn't bitch about the president if he's not going to vote! Aside from that, a very entertaining show. However, we discovered another guy, Louis C.K.--this guy is a fucking riot. I've never seen a comedien this damn funny--seriously, he's hilarious. He has a bit about what Hell is probably like, where all you do is spend eternity giving demons blow jobs. Ahhhh... hell, I hope that's still on On-Demand, I want to watch it again...
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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 15, 2005 16:39:10 GMT -5
That was a hilarious Bush bash, though, you have to admit. I liked it, because he didn't do a whole set on him, just that one line, and it was fucking brilliant. Some of the other stuff, like the shopping mall bits, and the Pyramid of the Damned where pretty funny. I still think You Are All Diseased and Jammin' in New York are his two best ones, but this one wasn't that bad. I liked it, plus I went to one of the stops on the tour, so it was great. That guy, Louis CK, he sounds familiar. At my show, we had a guy named Danny...something, I can't remember, it started with a B, but he was pretty hilarious. One of my favorites: A conversation between Sylvester Stallone, Keith Richards, and Bob Dylan. (Mutters incoherently for the next thirty seconds pantomiming each one) that was amazing.
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Post by 42ndstreetfreak on Nov 15, 2005 16:45:22 GMT -5
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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 15, 2005 16:48:55 GMT -5
Ilsa is a good one, though only because of the rampant nudity. Hopefully I'll get the DVD Box Set soon enough, but not now.
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Post by Termination on Nov 15, 2005 17:18:23 GMT -5
I had heard something similar to this happened, but I couldn't remember it. Thanks for that, Term, and you're forgiven about the Hitchcock argument. Sorry if I offended Hitchcock's films in anyway, its just that I personally am not a HUGE fan of the Classics. I'll say this though, I've been watching his films in order of release & maybe its just me, but I've noticed the latter years of his directing did infact improve starting with Psycho which showed a completly different side of Alfred. Not to discredit his earlier work, I just find his more recent work more entertaining. Quite frankly, I had gotten sick of seeing James Stewert in almost every film before Psycho. Marnie wasn't all bad imo either.
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Post by Pulpmariachi on Nov 15, 2005 23:01:38 GMT -5
...Jimmie Stewart was only in four Hitchcock films...Vertigo, The Man Who Knew Too Much, Rope, and Rear Window. I think Cary Grant actually was in more. And Hitchcock's filmography is what...dozens and dozens of movies?
So it goes.
Just watched Shaun of the Dead.
Yeah boi!!!
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