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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 13, 2005 16:24:19 GMT -5
Okay, Term, you've now gotten on my bad side about Hitchcock. If it wasn't for him, horror films today would still be Gothic horror films. He was the one that gave the modern slasher (Psycho) the creature feature (The Birds) and so many more genres of film that I can't believe you'd actually diss him like this. Especially The Birds. That's my favorite Hitchcock film, and you insulting it makes me all the madder.
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Post by Pulpmariachi on Nov 13, 2005 19:39:28 GMT -5
Just watched The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
And I have to agree with Slayrrr on this one. While The Birds isn't my favorite film of his (that's a three-way between Rear Window, North by Northwest, and The Man Who Knew Too Much) it's still a great film, full of intenisty. It's all in the sounds.
So, I totally disagree with you. They're all brilliant films.
But, I don't think his films are necessarily "horror." The only horror one was The Birds, everything else is more susepence/thriller. With a mix of romance and adventure.
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Post by 42ndstreetfreak on Nov 13, 2005 20:15:13 GMT -5
"Django Kill" - Bizarre, violent, gothic, bleak, camp...dusty.
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Post by Termination on Nov 13, 2005 20:19:24 GMT -5
Call 'em like I see 'em.
slayrrr666,
Psycho is an alright/good film, but The Birds just didn't seem to fly imo with regard to acting, storytelling & if I wanted to insult his films I would 'of rated them 0/4 stars but I didn't.
Pulpmariachi,
I consider Psycho the only horror film thus far out of all his films I've seen from his masterpiece collection. Its the only film with an "R" rating of the 14 films in the set.
Marnie 1/4 stars
Three to Tango 1/4 stars
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Post by Pulpmariachi on Nov 13, 2005 20:50:34 GMT -5
Hey, your opinion man, your opinion.
I actually think Psycho was never rated R originally. It might predate the MPAA...I'll have to look into it. Same with The Birds. PG-13 definitley didn't exist when that came out.
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Post by Termination on Nov 13, 2005 20:59:35 GMT -5
Yep, just my opinion. If ya disagree with it, fine. I try not to get involved with other people's favorites that are not mine & vise versa.
I think you're right about the MPAA Pulp.
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Post by ZapRowsdower on Nov 14, 2005 0:12:51 GMT -5
I agree that when there's a difference of opinion that's all that is, but Hitchcock is almost the cinematic equivalent to God, and to badmouth his work is considered blasphemy by most people who take their cinema seriously.
I haven't seen every Hitchcock movie there is, but I have seen The Lady Vanishes, Psycho, Vertigo, North by Northwest, Rear Window, Strangers on a Train and portions of Foreign Correspondent. I have absolutely no complaints. Even in terms of acting... most movies from that time period were like that when it came to acting. And you can really tell the difference when you see a BAD performance from that time period (for further reading, see Plan 9 From Outer Space). And James Stewart was one of the greatest actors of all time!
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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 14, 2005 10:08:14 GMT -5
Hey, your opinion man, your opinion. I actually think Psycho was never rated R originally. It might predate the MPAA...I'll have to look into it. Same with The Birds. PG-13 definitley didn't exist when that came out. Correct with that, Pulp. The film board created the existence of the MPAA in 1968 to handle the release of the Spaghetti Westerns that were being released at that time. The PG-13 rating came into existence with the release of Gremlins, because it was too dark for little kids, but way to weak to earn the R. |
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Post by Quorthon on Nov 14, 2005 10:36:03 GMT -5
Hey, your opinion man, your opinion. I actually think Psycho was never rated R originally. It might predate the MPAA...I'll have to look into it. Same with The Birds. PG-13 definitley didn't exist when that came out. The original ratings were G, PG, R, X. PG-13 was apparently added because of an Indiana Jones movie which was too violent for a PG, but not quite an R. X, of course, was dropped only a few years back in favor of NC-17. Incidentially, the following films were originally rated X: Scarface, Robocop, Hellraiser, Braveheart (among others). Scarface's current R-rated cut was originally rated X. Robocop's X-cut can be found in the Robocop box set. The other two can only be found in the private homes of their makers, Clive Barker and Mel Gibson respectively. I just watched: Sideways The X-Files: Fight the Future (the movie) Crash All good. |
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Post by Pulpmariachi on Nov 14, 2005 11:20:48 GMT -5
Which Crash? The Cronenburg one or the newer one?
I love the X-Files movies, but my old tape got ruined long ago.
Yeah, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom brought up the PG-13 rating, but the first PG-13 film was Red Dawn or something I think. It had Robert Redford and I'm pretty sure it had something to do with war. Obviously, I've never seen it.
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Post by Quorthon on Nov 14, 2005 11:24:14 GMT -5
The new Crash is the one I saw--the one about the little racist in all of us, and the big racists in everyone in Los Angeles, apparently.
Well, okay, it's deeper than that....
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Post by frankenjohn on Nov 14, 2005 15:41:23 GMT -5
It's been 14 days since the 37th birthday of the MPAA.
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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 14, 2005 15:41:46 GMT -5
Yeah, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom brought up the PG-13 rating, but the first PG-13 film was Red Dawn or something I think. It had Robert Redford and I'm pretty sure it had something to do with war. Obviously, I've never seen it. I always thought it was Gremlins which was the first PG-13 movie? Indiana Jones was first, hmm. Red Dawn starred Patrick Swayze and Charlie Cheen as the leaders of a high school who fight back when Russian terrorists invade their school. |
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Post by LivingDeadGirl on Nov 14, 2005 16:41:22 GMT -5
The Wizard Of Oz this weekend on TBS
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Post by Pulpmariachi on Nov 14, 2005 17:00:08 GMT -5
I watched The Wizard of Oz on TBS too!
Indiana Jones is the primary reason why PG-13 was invented, and I'm pretty sure that Gremlins is still PG. It's those movies together I suppose.
You're right, Robert Redford wasn't there, it was Charlie Sheen. But, this is from the Internet Movie Database:
"This was the first motion picture released with the PG-13 rating, which had been created after difficulty rating some movies in 1984, most notably Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984). (The Flamingo Kid (1984) was the first film to be *given* a PG-13 rating, but sat on the shelves for five months before being released)."
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