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Post by Bartwald on Oct 31, 2006 12:48:02 GMT -5
Episode 4 was so-so again. The whole thing with Sawyer - showing him the island in the end - was totally illogical. And come to think of it - how logical was forcing Sawyer and Kate to dig that mini-hole two episodes back?
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Post by ZapRowsdower on Oct 31, 2006 16:59:21 GMT -5
Episode 4 was so-so again. The whole thing with Sawyer - showing him the island in the end - was totally illogical. And come to think of it - how logical was forcing Sawyer and Kate to dig that mini-hole two episodes back? Alright, Mr. Spock, I'm sure there's a logical explanation for everything. Be patient. I personally thought the episode was great. |
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Nov 1, 2006 13:30:04 GMT -5
I agree with Zap.
The whole show is one mindfuck after another so why would you assume that something was illogical until it's further explained? Patience is definitely needed with this series, and anyone who needs answers right away, this probably isn't the show for them.
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Post by Bartwald on Nov 1, 2006 13:59:11 GMT -5
You know, I loved Twin Peaks which wasn't exactly about giving us the answers right away. But that was done with style - Lost, in my opinion, is now just struggling to be oh-so-damn-mysterious and I don't think the answers to some questions (why the polar bear is a coward, or why two dead tired people would be digging a hole with a bunch of energetic guardians just standing around) will ever appear - these are more like logical flaws or just carelessness than interesting questions, really. But hell - good for you to keep on liking Lost this sort of unconditional love.  |
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Nov 1, 2006 17:03:04 GMT -5
I'd have to say that even the mighty TWIN PEAKS, which I loved, was definitely struggling in it's second season compared to the brilliance of the first.
I definitely love LOST, but I wouldn't call it unconditional. If I feel it's starting to suck, I'll be honest enough to say so. Just so happens that I'm still into it as much as I was the first season.
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Post by ZapRowsdower on Nov 1, 2006 18:17:17 GMT -5
I'd have to say that even the mighty TWIN PEAKS, which I loved, was definitely struggling in it's second season compared to the brilliance of the first. I definitely love LOST, but I wouldn't call it unconditional. If I feel it's starting to suck, I'll be honest enough to say so. Just so happens that I'm still into it as much as I was the first season. Same here. When they get to the episode where Sayid has to jump a shark on motorcycle, I'll probably stop loving the series so much. But Lost hasn't jumped the shark just yet. |
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Post by Bartwald on Nov 2, 2006 10:49:03 GMT -5
When they get to the episode where Sayid has to jump a shark on motorcycle... Ha, ha - my own love for the series would make a prompt return at that, I guess! |
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Post by Phoenix on Nov 2, 2006 14:34:12 GMT -5
Last nights episode for me was the least favorite so far of the season. It was the first time some things didn't work out like I usually like.
*************SPOILERS!!*********
What was the point of Echo's death really but the final pay-off of "you're next" and to show the black cloud? Why did Locke even bother to go out of his way to save Echo last week only to have him murdered this week? Why'd the vision of his brother say "You talk to me like I"m your brother" and then walk away? Bah. Didn't like it.
Did I like echo's flashbacks? No.
Did I think his death was premature? Yes. (although it appears they blatantly killed him off to feature two new characters).
Oh well, I'm sure this is a small bump in the road to move onto what appears to be a very suspenseful next week.
**************END OF SPOILERS*************
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Nov 3, 2006 12:12:12 GMT -5
Ooh, the LOST backlash has definitely begun. SPOILERS!!It wasn't my favorite either, but I did like Ecko turning the tables on the thugs, "You don't know me!". They didn't see that one coming. ;D And the flashbacks did finally explain why he felt the need to build a church on the island. His death was a shock, but isn't that supposed to be part of the suspense? That any character can die at any time. I actually thought that Charlie surviving that hanging back in Season One was kind of a cop-out. How many times do we, as viewers, complain about movies or series where main characters in dire situations never so much as get a scratch, let alone die? The nice thing about this show is that even after death, you never know when a character might make a return appearance in a flashback or vision like Boone a couple of weeks ago. |
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Post by Phoenix on Nov 3, 2006 12:23:40 GMT -5
I sort of disagree w/you Heineken. I used to like the idea that any moment a character can die but it is less of a shock to me than it used to be. Most of the shows I watch feature "shocking deaths," (ie Prison Break, Supernatural, 24) to the point where it's getting to feel overdone.
They can't just keep killing people off and expect to maintain ratings. In fact, Lost has lost a bit of it's audience from the season start and for the first time this last week it lost the 9PM time slot for overall ratings to "Criminal Minds."
I still LOVE the show and will watch it faithfully. But I can see where some people are getting a bit tired of the antics.
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Nov 3, 2006 12:34:45 GMT -5
I sort of disagree w/you Heineken. I used to like the idea that any moment a character can die but it is less of a shock to me than it used to be. Most of the shows I watch feature "shocking deaths," (ie Prison Break, Supernatural, 24) to the point where it's getting to feel overdone. I don't watch any of those other shows so maybe that's why it's fresh to me. Yeah, I heard about the ratings slip too, but honestly, I always figured this is one of those shows that's going to burn really brightly for a few seasons, ie: Twin Peaks, Moonlighting, etc., but is not going to be around forever. I assume and hope, that JJ Abrahams and co. have a plan for wrapping up the series in a hurry if the ratings start taking a serious nosedive. |
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Post by Phoenix on Nov 3, 2006 16:13:52 GMT -5
Someone sent me this article today: www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1553848_3_0_,00.html Appears the actor who plays Echo asked to leave the show, hence the hasty death. So I can't blame the Lost writers.  |
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Post by Bartwald on Nov 3, 2006 16:44:34 GMT -5
Saw this episode just right now. Not a good one.
SPOILERS!
Echo's death was not a shock for me: he was one of the most boring characters AND it looked like he died already at the end of Season 2, so where's the surprise?
To me the ratings slip is totally understandable in this case - this new season is nowhere near the previous seasons quality-wise.
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Post by Pulpmariachi on Nov 4, 2006 14:12:53 GMT -5
Finally caught both of the last two weeks' episodes.
SPOLERS
The island thing is interesting and it leads me to wonder if the Hydra connects that two islands?
Mr. Ecko's death was a shocker -- but I watch 24 where they pull it out of left field with absolutley no foreshadowing ahead of time and I think there were plenty of hints that Mr. Ecko wouldn't last out the entire episode. And you know what? I like seeing the secruity system.
I don't know about the two new characters yet...it just seems rather convient she came along and was like, "What about the other TVs?"
Dude. He has a tumor. What's Jack gonna do?
SO, the Internet doesn't show NEXT WEEK ON LOST, so what's the preview?
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Post by Bartwald on Dec 4, 2006 14:50:12 GMT -5
On how Lost is similar to The Stand and Stephen King figures out the series' final twist: www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1562722_3_0_,00.html Check this out! |
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