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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 3, 2005 17:10:35 GMT -5
Okay, now that I've posted my grievance there, now what?
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Post by frankenjohn on Nov 3, 2005 17:12:32 GMT -5
Look there for a response.
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Nov 3, 2005 19:30:13 GMT -5
Cronenbreg for me, but I never liked any of them, to be honest. Cronenberg gets the nod only because of "The Fly." You're kidding, right? Lynch: BLUE VELVET, THE ELEPHANT MAN, TWIN PEAKS and the mind fuck that is ERASERHEAD. Fincher: SEVEN & FIGHT CLUB. Cronenberg: THE FLY, VIDEODROME, A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE, DEAD RINGERS. Yeah, some real lightweights there.  |
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Nov 3, 2005 19:34:58 GMT -5
I properly reported myself to the Movie Police for those greivances. Everyone gave me quite the spanking for never seeing Titanic--and not wanting to see it. Yeah, but personally, I think you deserve a much bigger spanking for that whole GODFATHER thing. I can forgive your apathy towards TITANIC, but THE GODFATHER? No way, man! By the way, how's that whole thing with your wife never having seen any of the STAR WARS movies coming? There's another one that made my head explode. |
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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 4, 2005 0:39:17 GMT -5
Cronenbreg for me, but I never liked any of them, to be honest. Cronenberg gets the nod only because of "The Fly." You're kidding, right? Lynch: BLUE VELVET, THE ELEPHANT MAN, TWIN PEAKS and the mind fuck that is ERASERHEAD. Fincher: SEVEN & FIGHT CLUB. Cronenberg: THE FLY, VIDEODROME, A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE, DEAD RINGERS. Yeah, some real lightweights there. I've never been into directors that purposely do that to the audience. Hate on me more, but I really thought Dead Ringers was dull, A History of Violence I haven't seen, and doubt that I will. Same for Videodrome. Never even seen any of the Fincher or Lynch films either, and I don't care to either. |
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Post by DrLenera on Nov 4, 2005 4:05:59 GMT -5
I went with Cronenberg. I think Lynch's and Fincher's films hit you more while you see them,but Cronenberg's films stay with you longer,some of his imagery sticks in the mind,which isn't always a nice thing. I'm more of a fan of his earlier films like The Brood,Shivers and the amazing Vidoedrome than his recent stuff,but it's always interesting. A History of Violence I thought was his best film in ages.
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Nov 4, 2005 9:03:14 GMT -5
I've never been into directors that purposely do that to the audience. Hate on me more, but I really thought Dead Ringers was dull, A History of Violence I haven't seen, and doubt that I will. Same for Videodrome. Never even seen any of the Fincher or Lynch films either, and I don't care to either. You really should give them a chance, man. You're missing out on some very good stuff. That's one of the reasons I started the "Heineken's Essentials" thread over in Off the Chest. I realize there are a lot of movie fans who never venture outside of the types of movies they like. ie: The horror fan who heads straight for the horror section of his local video store and never even considers anything else. As a film fan you really owe it to yourself to see all kinds of movies by all kinds of directors, but to each his own. |
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Post by Quorthon on Nov 4, 2005 10:35:20 GMT -5
I've never been into directors that purposely do that to the audience. Hate on me more, but I really thought Dead Ringers was dull, A History of Violence I haven't seen, and doubt that I will. Same for Videodrome. Never even seen any of the Fincher or Lynch films either, and I don't care to either. You really should give them a chance, man. You're missing out on some very good stuff. That's one of the reasons I started the "Heineken's Essentials" thread over in Off the Chest. I realize there are a lot of movie fans who never venture outside of the types of movies they like. ie: The horror fan who heads straight for the horror section of his local video store and never even considers anything else. As a film fan you really owe it to yourself to see all kinds of movies by all kinds of directors, but to each his own. I'm typically that guy. Wander to the horror section. Unfortunately, it's never as good as it was when I was younger... Slayrrr--Of the directors above, the one you really should check out is Cronenberg--because Cronenberg likes bizarre sex stuff and gore. Hell, the guy loves gore. History of Violence is sheer brilliance--and the gore!! Holy shit! It's brief, but it's the best gore I've seen in a theater since..... hell, I don't know what the last movie I saw was with gore that cool! The DotD remake was quality gore, but nowhere near as interesting as HoV's gore! And Slayrrr--don't take the "hating" too hard. It's just good natured ribbing. I'm a horror/gore fanatic that became a movie connisseur (met a guy I used to work with that's a big movie fan)--but I never stop looking for more gory horror shlock! |
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Post by Quorthon on Nov 4, 2005 10:37:29 GMT -5
Cronenbreg for me, but I never liked any of them, to be honest. Cronenberg gets the nod only because of "The Fly." You're kidding, right? Lynch: BLUE VELVET, THE ELEPHANT MAN, TWIN PEAKS and the mind fuck that is ERASERHEAD. Fincher: SEVEN & FIGHT CLUB. Cronenberg: THE FLY, VIDEODROME, A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE, DEAD RINGERS. Yeah, some real lightweights there. Dude, you forgot NAKED LUNCH. The talking bug with the asshole mouth and the Muklug jizm... |
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Nov 4, 2005 11:03:40 GMT -5
Well, I haven't seen NAKED LUNCH so I can't really recommend it.
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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 4, 2005 11:53:33 GMT -5
I'm not an arty film fan or brilliant direction fan, though. I don't care for that kind of stuff in movies I watch. I just look for two things: Is the plot decent enough to support 90 minutes of screen-time, and how fastly paced the movie is. It's my action film roots. I love action in a movie over brilliant-designed characters or tight direction. It doesn't have to have constant car chases, gun fights, fist fights, etc. Too me, a flim should move along at the pace similar to "Phantasm 2." Always something happening, a fast pace, lots of action and scares, that's the way I like my movies.
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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 4, 2005 11:58:23 GMT -5
And Slayrrr--don't take the "hating" too hard. It's just good natured ribbing. I'm a horror/gore fanatic that became a movie connisseur (met a guy I used to work with that's a big movie fan)--but I never stop looking for more gory horror shlock! Don't worry, Q. I get that all the time. I'm pretty used to it and doesn't bother me about people poking fun at me. Back in high school, when everyone was all about trying to out-insult the other person in a fight, I would laugh when people insulted me if it was a funny enough image they used. That's why no one really get into a verbal fight with me: I couldn't be insulted, so they stopped trying. |
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Post by Quorthon on Nov 4, 2005 12:01:18 GMT -5
Well, I haven't seen NAKED LUNCH so I can't really recommend it. Have you reported yourself to the Movie Police on this matter, sir...? |
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Nov 4, 2005 18:53:27 GMT -5
See my reply in the Movie Police thread. ;D
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Post by ptandersonisgod on Nov 7, 2005 14:08:29 GMT -5
I love Cronenberg, he has fantastic vision and is the only person I think could ever make a movie of Naked Lunch (on which he did a fantastic job). He is a wonderfully talented director who has been making great movies ever since Scanners. Videodrome, Naked Lunch, The Fly, Dead Ringers, The Dead Zone, and the aforementioned Scanners are all wonderful movies that will truly stand the test of time. Though I haven't seen A History Of Violence, I plan on seeing it when it comes on to DVD.
Fincher is one of the greatest hopes for 21st century cinema. He has a very unique way of presenting a story that keeps the viewer in a state of suspense. His use of CGI is perfect, he never uses too much and uses it only when necessary. Even in the field of music videos, Fincher has shown great talent. His treatment for the Nine Inch Nails song "Only" was amazing and he truly created something that will be revered and remembered. I am looking forward to Zodiac and Benjamin Button.
Now, Lynch (for whom I cast my vote) is, in my opinion, the best of these three. As with Cronenberg and Fincher, Lynch is truly one of the best modern directors we have. He refuses to stick to the conventional means of storytelling, opting instead to present us with something that we have to sit and absorb for a great length of time after watching the film. Most of his movies have to be watched multiple times in order to truly understand the depth and meaning contained within. His themes are also always mind-blowing. Dual personalities, psychological trauma, delusion, murder, society... all are game in Lynch's twisted world. Films like Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, Eraserhead, Blue Velvet and The Elephant Man are some of the most challenging films to date. Lynch is not afraid to use surrealism (neither is Cronenberg) in telling his stories, as was clearly seen in the dream sequences in Twin Peaks.
Again, I love all three of these directors. In fact, they are all in my top 20 directors of all time. However, in having to choose just one who I think is the cream of the crop, David Lynch takes it.
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