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Post by Fenril on Dec 28, 2006 22:03:48 GMT -5
Seems like Del Toro is the runaway favorite for me to get onto viewing, but so far I haven't been that impressed with his. Mimic is one I felt should've been better than it was, and Hellboy wasn't all that great, compared to Blade 2, but that had a tendency to drag on at time and felt too overlong. So far, it's 2 to 1, so I hope it'll swing into a more positive side. As a general rule, Del Toro's spanish-spoken films (Cronos, The devil's backbone and Pan's labyrinth) are darker and far more complex, whereas his english-spoken movies (Mimic, Hellboy) are much more comercial and hollywood-esque --they invariably have happy ending, whereas his spanish movies have bittersweet or even sad endings. Cronos is indeed his only mexican production so far. Besides that, some mexican horror titles I recommend (and that are available internationally) include: (Original title followed by literal translation, then International title): - Alucarda, la hija de las tinieblas (Alucarda, daughter of darkness) AKA Alucarda. Crazy possesion film with enormous amounts of gore, nudity (of both sexes) and hysterical yelling. Has to be seen to be believed. - Santa Sangre (Holy blood) AKA Santa Sangre. Jodorowsky's sole proper horror movie, a beyond-surreal slasher loosely based on the real life case of Goyo Cardenas. - Veneno para las hadas (Poison for the fariries) AKA The evil fairies. Subtly creepy gothic horror about two young girls who wish to become witches and start performing satanic pacts. It's all fun and games, until the people they pretend to curse actually do start dying... - El vampiro (The Vampire) AKA The vampire. The title says it all; oft considered one of the best traditional vampire movies. - El ataud del vampiro (The vampire's coffin) AKA The vampire's coffin. A sequel to El Vampiro. - Sobrenatural (Supernatural) AKA All of them witches. Roughly a mexican Rosemary's baby, with a zombie thrown in for good measure. - Satánico pandemonium (Satanic Pandemonium) AKA Satánico pandemonium. An exploitation shocker about a possessed nun. - Hasta el viento tiene miedo (Even the wind is afraid) AKA Hasta el viento tiene miedo. A megacreepy ghost movie from the director of "Veneno para las hadas", my personal favorite mexican horror movie. Extremely hard to find, but there IS a DVD somewhere. - La tía Alejandra (Aunt Alexandra) AKA La tía Alejandra. Arturo Ripstein's (Profundo Carmesí) sole proper horror story, a tale of a family that recieves a visit from a distant wealthy aunt. Trouble is, Aunt Alexandra is actually a witch with some decidedly macabre plans for the family... - Ciclón (Cyclone) AKA Cyclone. The survivors of a plane crash find themselves stranded in open water, surrounded by sharks and feeling increasingly cannibalistic... - La maldición de la llorona (Curse of La Llorona) AKA Curse of the weeping woman. A gothic witchcraft tale, one of many movies concerning the legend of La Llorona. - Tintorera (Tintorera) AKA Killer shark. A mexican "Jaws" (it actually predates "Jaws" by a couple years). And well, that's about all I can think of for the moment. Enjoy! |
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Post by Quorthon on Dec 29, 2006 0:01:18 GMT -5
It was the only song I liked off that album. Dude, whatever! Cryptic Writings is awesome! But I'm a huge Megadeth fan, so....... |
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Post by slayrrr666 on Dec 29, 2006 12:11:20 GMT -5
It was the only song I liked off that album. Dude, whatever! Cryptic Writings is awesome! But I'm a huge Megadeth fan, so....... And I'm not really a fan at all. They were the only group I couldn't get into from the American Foursome, and the only one of theirs I liked more than two songs off was their first one. But that's neither here nor there. As a general rule, Del Toro's spanish-spoken films (Cronos, The devil's backbone and Pan's labyrinth) are darker and far more complex, whereas his english-spoken movies (Mimic, Hellboy) are much more comercial and hollywood-esque --they invariably have happy ending, whereas his spanish movies have bittersweet or even sad endings. Cronos is indeed his only mexican production so far. Besides that, some mexican horror titles I recommend (and that are available internationally) include: (Original title followed by literal translation, then International title): - Alucarda, la hija de las tinieblas (Alucarda, daughter of darkness) AKA Alucarda. Crazy possesion film with enormous amounts of gore, nudity (of both sexes) and hysterical yelling. Has to be seen to be believed. - Santa Sangre (Holy blood) AKA Santa Sangre. Jodorowsky's sole proper horror movie, a beyond-surreal slasher loosely based on the real life case of Goyo Cardenas. - Veneno para las hadas (Poison for the fariries) AKA The evil fairies. Subtly creepy gothic horror about two young girls who wish to become witches and start performing satanic pacts. It's all fun and games, until the people they pretend to curse actually do start dying... - El vampiro (The Vampire) AKA The vampire. The title says it all; oft considered one of the best traditional vampire movies. - El ataud del vampiro (The vampire's coffin) AKA The vampire's coffin. A sequel to El Vampiro. - Sobrenatural (Supernatural) AKA All of them witches. Roughly a mexican Rosemary's baby, with a zombie thrown in for good measure. - Satánico pandemonium (Satanic Pandemonium) AKA Satánico pandemonium. An exploitation shocker about a possessed nun. - Hasta el viento tiene miedo (Even the wind is afraid) AKA Hasta el viento tiene miedo. A megacreepy ghost movie from the director of "Veneno para las hadas", my personal favorite mexican horror movie. Extremely hard to find, but there IS a DVD somewhere. - La tía Alejandra (Aunt Alexandra) AKA La tía Alejandra. Arturo Ripstein's (Profundo Carmesí) sole proper horror story, a tale of a family that recieves a visit from a distant wealthy aunt. Trouble is, Aunt Alexandra is actually a witch with some decidedly macabre plans for the family... - Ciclón (Cyclone) AKA Cyclone. The survivors of a plane crash find themselves stranded in open water, surrounded by sharks and feeling increasingly cannibalistic... - La maldición de la llorona (Curse of La Llorona) AKA Curse of the weeping woman. A gothic witchcraft tale, one of many movies concerning the legend of La Llorona. - Tintorera (Tintorera) AKA Killer shark. A mexican "Jaws" (it actually predates "Jaws" by a couple years). And well, that's about all I can think of for the moment. Enjoy! Finally!! The purpose of the thread, to expose someone other than Del Toro. Sounds like a great listing of films. I'll see what I can look up about them and go from there. Thanks a lot! ;D |
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Post by Fenril on Dec 30, 2006 20:29:23 GMT -5
Finally!! The purpose of the thread, to expose someone other than Del Toro. Sounds like a great listing of films. I'll see what I can look up about them and go from there. Thanks a lot! ;D Not that you shouldn't check out all things by Del Toro, you know  Anyway, you're welcome, hope you enjoy whichever of these films you manage to find. P. S. By the way, in reference to "El Topo" mentioned a while ago --it's technically a western (albeit the strangest ever made), and from the same director of "Santa Sangre". Just thought I'd share that. |
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Post by slayrrr666 on Dec 31, 2006 11:41:01 GMT -5
Yeah, Del Toro is a big one but even I knew of his stuff. The main reason was to find other stuff, and I did manage to find a couple of them on DVD:
Alucarda (which I'm going to order the second I have enough for it. With as much sleaze and gore in it as it sounds, I'm going to have a ton of fun with it.)
Holy Blood
Supernatural
Poison for the Fairies
The Vampire
The Vampire's Coffin (That box set looks really tempting as well, but Alucarda is the first one)
Tintorera
Those were the ones I could find pretty easily, so they'll be sought after in a while. Huge thanks again. ;D
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Post by Pulpmariachi on Feb 9, 2007 22:37:51 GMT -5
Dude, whatever! Cryptic Writings is awesome! But I'm a huge Megadeth fan, so....... And I'm not really a fan at all. They were the only group I couldn't get into from the American Foursome, and the only one of theirs I liked more than two songs off was their first one. But that's neither here nor there. As a general rule, Del Toro's spanish-spoken films (Cronos, The devil's backbone and Pan's labyrinth) are darker and far more complex, whereas his english-spoken movies (Mimic, Hellboy) are much more comercial and hollywood-esque --they invariably have happy ending, whereas his spanish movies have bittersweet or even sad endings. Cronos is indeed his only mexican production so far. Besides that, some mexican horror titles I recommend (and that are available internationally) include: (Original title followed by literal translation, then International title): - Alucarda, la hija de las tinieblas (Alucarda, daughter of darkness) AKA Alucarda. Crazy possesion film with enormous amounts of gore, nudity (of both sexes) and hysterical yelling. Has to be seen to be believed. - Santa Sangre (Holy blood) AKA Santa Sangre. Jodorowsky's sole proper horror movie, a beyond-surreal slasher loosely based on the real life case of Goyo Cardenas. - Veneno para las hadas (Poison for the fariries) AKA The evil fairies. Subtly creepy gothic horror about two young girls who wish to become witches and start performing satanic pacts. It's all fun and games, until the people they pretend to curse actually do start dying... - El vampiro (The Vampire) AKA The vampire. The title says it all; oft considered one of the best traditional vampire movies. - El ataud del vampiro (The vampire's coffin) AKA The vampire's coffin. A sequel to El Vampiro. - Sobrenatural (Supernatural) AKA All of them witches. Roughly a mexican Rosemary's baby, with a zombie thrown in for good measure. - Satánico pandemonium (Satanic Pandemonium) AKA Satánico pandemonium. An exploitation shocker about a possessed nun. - Hasta el viento tiene miedo (Even the wind is afraid) AKA Hasta el viento tiene miedo. A megacreepy ghost movie from the director of "Veneno para las hadas", my personal favorite mexican horror movie. Extremely hard to find, but there IS a DVD somewhere. - La tía Alejandra (Aunt Alexandra) AKA La tía Alejandra. Arturo Ripstein's (Profundo Carmesí) sole proper horror story, a tale of a family that recieves a visit from a distant wealthy aunt. Trouble is, Aunt Alexandra is actually a witch with some decidedly macabre plans for the family... - Ciclón (Cyclone) AKA Cyclone. The survivors of a plane crash find themselves stranded in open water, surrounded by sharks and feeling increasingly cannibalistic... - La maldición de la llorona (Curse of La Llorona) AKA Curse of the weeping woman. A gothic witchcraft tale, one of many movies concerning the legend of La Llorona. - Tintorera (Tintorera) AKA Killer shark. A mexican "Jaws" (it actually predates "Jaws" by a couple years). And well, that's about all I can think of for the moment. Enjoy! Finally!! The purpose of the thread, to expose someone other than Del Toro. Sounds like a great listing of films. I'll see what I can look up about them and go from there. Thanks a lot! ;D See...you asked us for Mexican film directors then we give you one and you're like, "Ugh," then go on complaining and then say "Finally someone different." You asked the question, you shoulda specified. That's low man. |
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Post by slayrrr666 on Feb 10, 2007 11:11:08 GMT -5
Sorry. I should've. My bad. I figured there was more out there that you would've known about.
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Post by slayrrr666 on Mar 19, 2007 11:27:58 GMT -5
Finally watched one last week, The Mansion of Madness, and while I can say I probably shouldn't have chosen it as my first, I saw it for free on a website so it didn't cost me anything.
While I can say it's more strange and weird than horrific, it still has some great moments inside. It's several chases through the forests are just as good as any slasher film from the early 80s, and the ceremony/ritual at the end is as decadent and extravagent as any Black Mass conducted before it. The mystery through the beginning is a nice inclusion, as there's a long time spent observing the residents and their so-called "disorders," allowing for a feeling of general uneasiness that any asylum film needs.
The problems detail from the fact that it's just really strange and demented rather than using the strange and weird to really deliver any jolts. It's just treated as commonplace and are allowed to do whatever, and that can lead to a lot of dull spots throughout. A really leaden pace also harms this, as there's at least forty minutes of just wandering around the place looking at the different residents. There's still more time spent on the film's setup afterward, and it isn't until the last half-hour that anything really sort of happens. Really could've been fixed.
I do get the feeling that this was due to the copy I saw, since it was online in the form of Dr. Tarr's Torture Dungeon, and doing a little research when submitting it revealed that the full, uncut version is called The Mansion of Madness and the version called Dr. Tarrs is the cut, American version. Kinda want to see it just for the sake of seeing what was left out, but I at least got a small taste of Mexican horror, and that's fine with me.
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Post by Fenril on Mar 20, 2007 15:37:45 GMT -5
Finally watched one last week, The Mansion of Madness, and while I can say I probably shouldn't have chosen it as my first, I saw it for free on a website so it didn't cost me anything. While I can say it's more strange and weird than horrific, it still has some great moments inside. I think I remember this one, an early film from the director of Alucarda... sort-of based on a comedy story by Allan Poe. I, too, found this more weird than scary (that's why it wasn't on that list), but didn't dislike it at all. It mostly made me think of campy / arty movies like Dario Argento's version of Phantom of the Opera. Fun to watch, great for those of us who like weird movies, just not too memorable. |
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Post by slayrrr666 on Mar 21, 2007 9:56:40 GMT -5
Yeah, that's the one. He did this one before Alucarda, and I'm dying to see that one.
On the same site where I found Mansion of Madness, they have the film Don't Panic, the one by Ruben Galindo. Is that any good?
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Post by Fenril on Mar 22, 2007 20:42:05 GMT -5
On the same site where I found Mansion of Madness, they have the film Don't Panic, the one by Ruben Galindo. Is that any good? Ooh, "Dimensiones Ocultas", I had forgotten about that one! It's... actually it's a pretty standard slasher movie, through as far as slashers go, it's pretty good: decent bodycount, some gore, a moderately scary killer... It used to bother me that this movie, like Santa Sangre, is supposed to take place in Mexico and has a local cast, yet everybody speaks english. In SS it helped to make the movie ever more surreal, here it kinda annoyed me. That aside, you could do worse than this movie. I found a review online for it (with a little spoilers, but nothing major): www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/dont_panic.htmIf you see it do share your thought on it, will ya? |
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Post by slayrrr666 on Mar 23, 2007 10:11:15 GMT -5
Will do.
I also checked the site, and they took down Dr. Tarrs Torture Dungeon, but I have seen it on other sites so it's not a problem for those who are interested.
That site looks pretty good, I'll have to check it out. And it spoils a film about as much I do anyway.
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Post by slayrrr666 on Mar 26, 2007 11:52:52 GMT -5
Caught up with it yesterday, and I really feel I should've done this one first, as it was an absolute blast. This is quite obvious a retread of the American slashers, only set in Mexico, and unlike some others that I've read about, doesn't spend a ton of time wallowing in the flavor of the country at the expense of the story, which is greatly appreciated and puts the movie into extreme hyperdrive, really not slowing down a whole bunch. There's tons of stand-out slasher type scenes, but the one that beats them all is the hospital scenes. The first stalking scene, sneaking up on the unknowning victim is an absolute smash, delivering tons of suspense the way American ones do. I still can't figure out, though, if the following chase of the hero through the hospital wings is better or not, as it was just a blast watching that. The special trick of having the hero become blind and seeing what the killer saw, which was his frantic racing down the hallways bumping into walls hoping to elude him, is just plain inventive and quite stylish. Picking up the friend at the apartment house, which starts simply enough and soon descends into utter chaos, is full of fun, and the final showdown is serviceable enough. Gore is acceptable, but seeing as it was Screaming Mad George, I kinda expected a little more "out-there" feeling to the kills. The only one that's halfway cool is the dagger through the chin that breaks into the mouth and starts to wiggle around. With a creepy killer thrown in, this one really surprised me. There was only a few things I didn't like, particularly the gore, but also the lovey-dovey relationship at the beginning. It goes on a little too long, and kinda repeats itself. We know they're playing hookey, no need for them to bash us over the head with what they're doing. And wasn't it supposed to be for just the one class? How can they have the time to do all the activities in the amount of time a class usually takes (I'm guessing an hour, and some go to an hour and a half, but that still seems like a lot to do in that amount of time) and a little more backstory on the killer would've been appreciated. Where did he come from? How did the ritual free him? Why is he released through the ritual? Not nescessarily nagging questions, but they do arise. Overall, this one was a pleasant surprise. Lots to like about it, and what's there to like is the main points of it being there, with only a few nagging questions left up in the air. I immensely enjoyed it.
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Post by slayrrr666 on Oct 15, 2007 10:17:19 GMT -5
Something that I really thought would be nice to have on my shelf: Deimos Entertainment and BCI Eclipse gave Fango the scoop that they’ll release the HORROR SOUTH OF THE BORDER boxed set December 18. The four-disc package will include seven Mexican-made fright features from the ’80s and ’90s: VACATION OF TERROR (VACACIONES DE TERROR), VACATION OF TERROR 2 (VACACIONES DE TERROR 2), HELL’S TRAP (TRAMPA INFERNAL), CEMETERY OF TERROR (CEMENTERIO DEL TERROR), GRAVE ROBBERS (LADRONES DE TUMBAS), THE DEMON RAT (LA RATA MALDITA) and DON’T PANIC (DIMENSIONES OCULTAS). All the movies will be presented in English, and DON’T PANIC will have a Spanish soundtrack as well; retail price for the set is $24.98. www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=5172I've seen Don't Panic, but are the others in there any good? The Vacation of Terror films sound familiar, but I'm not sure. |
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Post by slayrrr666 on Nov 12, 2007 11:18:07 GMT -5
Found another Mexican horror film, this time it's actually one from your list, Tinotrera. Found it on Mexican TV, and a small backstory here is necessary. While watching it, I was thoroughly bored with the film, as the first hour, including commercial breaks were pretty much divided up into endless scenes of the two guys basically going back and forth trying to pick up women, to varying degrees. After some time, the shark attacks finally came and were actually really interesting. The one attack where the "skinny-dippers" are attacked, and the one is suffered through several attacks before finally succumbing to the attacks was pretty interesting. However, I was planning on giving it a really negative one as a few attack scenes in the second half of the broacast weren't enough to overcome the boredom of the first half. After writing the review up (I gave it a 3 out of 10) I went online to see what others had said of the film, as is my habit of seeing a film that potentially could've been should censored, and found out that there was a whole slew of pornographic affairs to the film. It never occured that there would've been, and so wasn't mentioned, and I had to go back and rewrite that into the review as it would've appeared to have not seen the film at all. As it passed with the rewrites, the offical version is HERE |
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