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Post by frankenjohn on Mar 5, 2005 22:31:08 GMT -5
I have recently read that director Wes Craven is planning to collaberate with french director Alexander Aja, who has already recieved international acclaim for his slasher flick "Haute Tension," for a remake of Craven's second film "The Hills Have Eyes." That is all I've heard for now.
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Post by Quorthon on Mar 8, 2005 1:50:05 GMT -5
Was the original any good? After Wes Craven's shitty later performances... well, about everything he's done since Nightmare 3, I've lost all faith in the man and view him as another Hollywood hack.
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Post by frankenjohn on Mar 8, 2005 6:51:04 GMT -5
I'm still a big Wes Craven fan!
I haven't seen Hills yet (I want to), but as far as I know, rottentomatoes.com calls it "essiential cinema."
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Post by Fenril on Mar 12, 2005 1:50:43 GMT -5
Was the original any good? After Wes Craven's shitty later performances... well, about everything he's done since Nightmare 3, I've lost all faith in the man and view him as another Hollywood hack. "Hills" is from way before that, only his second movie. BTW, he didn't direct Nightmare 3, he only wrote the screenplay. Is hills any good? Well, it is a bit better than "Last house on the left" (his first movie), but they are both truly disturbing rape / revenge shockers that are an acquired taste at best. I enjoyed both films, but would not recommend them to everyone. You'd really have to see them and decide for yourself. |
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Post by Quorthon on Mar 12, 2005 9:11:58 GMT -5
Ha ha, good one Fenril. They are an acquired taste, though, I didn't care much for Last House on the Left--even as a "first time" film. I can think of another first film, and it's a thousand times better than Craven's "shockerfest:" Evil Dead.
I think Wes Craven probably isn't all that good at horror, he seems to have (or have had) better luck with exploitation-style shocker films.
Plus, if you're into nasty, disturbing rape scenes (and if you are, you're a sick bastard), check out "Irreversible," with gorgeous Monica Bellucci. As desensitized (I butchered the spelling on that) as I am to horror, exploitation, shock films, and that psuedo-snuff I watched--"August Underground"--the rape scene in this film is something I dare say made me extremely uncomfortable. And my wife hated it. And I have no urge to ever watch it again.
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Post by DrLenera on Mar 12, 2005 12:21:44 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to this remake, basically because I thought Haute Tension was excellent-has anyone else seen it? It's extremely tension filled and quite nasty, there's a twist ending that some people hate but I didn't mind it. I think any horror gfan should seek it out {I live in the UK, don't know if it's on DVD in the US].
As for Craven, I also think he's overrated. Last House was effective in a certain way, and his films are quite enjoyable, but hardly scary IMO except maybe for the first Nightmare On Elm Street. As for the Scream films, they just annoy me. Give me 80s slashers any day!
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Post by LivingDeadGirl on Mar 12, 2005 16:20:14 GMT -5
Is hills any good? Well, it is a bit better than "Last house on the left" (his first movie), but they are both truly disturbing rape / revenge shockers that are an acquired taste at best. I haven't seen Hills, but I've seen Last House. It was one of the few films that's actually disturbed me. I watched it once, don't really care to see it again. I def. won't be acquiring a taste for those kind of movies. |
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Post by frankenjohn on Mar 12, 2005 17:48:14 GMT -5
Donkey shite.
"Last House" was one of the few films I thought was going to make me barf my intestines up, but instead it had the gore of "Bambi" to me.
Yes, I did not find "Last House on the Left" disturbing. I didn't have to repeat to myself "It's only a movie..." over and over again.
(This post was not meant to insult anyone who was disturbed, frightened, or had the loss of a pet because it's mad you made it watch "Last house.")
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Post by LivingDeadGirl on Mar 13, 2005 13:53:47 GMT -5
Donkey shite. "Last House" was one of the few films I thought was going to make me barf my intestines up, but instead it had the gore of "Bambi" to me. It wasn't actually the gore that bothered me...I can take the gore. It was more the situation & atmosphere of the movie. |
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Post by frankenjohn on Mar 13, 2005 18:00:22 GMT -5
Oh. I can see why. It's just there's much more graphic sh*t out there like "I Spit on Your Grave."
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Post by Phoenix on Mar 14, 2005 12:40:54 GMT -5
For me "Last House" was pretty cheesy and I'm not a fan. The music was sooooooooooooooooooooooo bad! Ruined the movie for me.
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Post by LivingDeadGirl on Mar 16, 2005 22:13:02 GMT -5
Oh. I can see why. It's just there's much more graphic sh*t out there like "I Spit on Your Grave." Well, yeah, I know that...and I've seen some of it. I'm just saying this is ONE of the movies that kind of got to me. |
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Post by Fenril on Mar 17, 2005 19:13:42 GMT -5
Ha ha, good one Fenril. They are an acquired taste... Um, what was the joke again? About last house: the thing with the gore is that there are several versions of this movie out there, some more cut than others --as far as I have heard, even the recent DVD isn't fully uncut as Craven himself later felt his own movie was too extreme and cut several frames from the original theatrical print. I think this movie is technically incompetent (in terms of cinematograhpy) and that the music doesn't really fit. And yes, there are more disturbing and / or graphic movies out there, but what I'm saying is, for people who grew up thinkg of Craven as the director of the Nightmare and Scream movies, seeing this films would surely be a shocking experience. The hills, as I have said, is an improvement over "Last house..." in cinematograhpical terms, but it's still very sloppy and unintentionally funny at times (what's up with the oh-so-human dog?) --yet you cannot deny that it's a damn distrurbing affair. I don't know how the remade would fare. Craven I think is something of a hit-and-miss director. He hit with movies like "The new nightmare", the original ANOES, "Summer of fear" and (up to a point) with "The serpent and the rainbow", "The people under the stairs" and even "Shocker". He missed with "Deadly friend" and "Deadly blessing", through both movies are at least fun to watch. By the way, there are only a few exploitation horror films I do like, but because I felt they were well-made and at least had something to say: - DELIVERANCE. - DEATH WEEKEND. - I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE (Sure don't want to watch the rape scene again). I think Irreversible is overrated, but I'll agree that it has some raw power to it. |
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Post by Quorthon on Apr 13, 2005 0:56:25 GMT -5
I was basically agreeing that Shocker/Exploitation stuff (like Last House) are an acquired taste. They're not easy movies to get into. They're either too grisly for some or for others, like me, too sloppy and poorly made. Or, overrated let-downs. I liked I Spit On Your Grave, however. I have high expectations for films that advertise just how grisly they can be, and I'm all too often really let down. I'm such a gore-hound.
I also agree that Irreversible is overrated, the story is rather bland overall, the style of the movie (shown in reverse-order segments) is it's selling point, along with a truly agonizing rape scene on a truly beautiful woman.
Hit-and-miss is a pretty accurate description of Craven. Though, I would say Miss-miss-hit. He has a lot of misses. After seeing Shocker as an adult (I originally saw it as a kid), I realized that it's a pretty juvenile film, and damn ridiculous in it's set-up. Wishmaster is another film I consider a miss. (I know the sequels have nothing to do with Craven, but god are they crappy). People Under The Stairs was a rare point of light in his otherwise bleak career, and I'm surprised to see someone else that actually considers New Nightmare to be a decent film. I'm not a big fan of it, but I thought it was better than a lot of his stuff.
Nothing, of course, beats the original Nightmare on Elm Street. To me, that's the only reason he has a career.
Anyone else around here know about the Jaws-Hills Have Eyes-Evil Dead-Nightmare on Elm Street legacy?
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