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Post by Bartwald on Oct 30, 2004 11:37:13 GMT -5
The original is excluded - I hope no one has problems with that.  In my opinion, though Halloweens 4, 5 and 6 are all rather poor (and it's quite difficult to tell which is which), the worst Halloween movie is the one that doesn't have Michael in it - Part III. Poor acting, laughable plot, no scares. Its soundtrack is a guilty pleasure, yeah, but it doesn't make HIII a good movie. |
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Post by ZapRowsdower on Oct 30, 2004 12:56:59 GMT -5
I voted Halloween III too. It's a no contest, really. I don't even think it should have been put on the poll. If it weren't for Halloween III, I would have voted for Halloween: Resurrection. I liked the rest of them.
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Oct 30, 2004 14:27:53 GMT -5
You know, even though I haven't seen all of them, I can't imagine any of them are worse than SEASON OF THE WITCH. One of the worst pieces of crap I've ever wasted time & money seeing in a theater. I still remember that freakin' annoying commercial jingle in the movie, "Three more days to Halloween, Halloween, Halloween...". AAAAAHHHH!!!! Make the memories go away, pleeeaasse!!!!  Speaking of Halloween. My, the Board is orange today.  That was my reaction when I first saw it.  |
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Post by Bartwald on Oct 30, 2004 14:44:38 GMT -5
I voted Halloween III too. It's a no contest, really. Oh, I know people who think it's a cool movie. No kidding. Heineken: ;D |
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Post by frankenjohn on Oct 30, 2004 16:46:27 GMT -5
Speaking of Halloween. My, the Board is orange today. That was my reaction when I first saw it. My eyes hurt really fricking bad when I first saw this, too. |
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Post by Bartwald on Oct 31, 2004 3:39:31 GMT -5
My eyes hurt really fricking bad when I first saw this, too. Just for Halloween, guys, just for Halloween. I'll maybe try to tame the orange a bit today, though I wonder which movie RIP will choose here, by the way. |
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Post by Termination on Oct 31, 2004 9:12:38 GMT -5
I have the first film, but would like to own all 8 films in a boxed set. Oh well, probably won't happen, but I said that with the Friday The 13th films.
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Post by 42ndstreetfreak on Oct 31, 2004 11:02:44 GMT -5
Fuck you all!!!!
You want crap..have "Halloween 5" and "Halloween H20".
Sad to see this hate for the excellent "Halloween 3"!!
DEFENDING TIME!
Plot wise it's got holes I agree...How does Atkins know (after only seeing it once, in a distressed state) how to put the advert on and to stop them turning it off....How does he stop even one of the ads, let alone 2. They would never believe him....Why does the Nelkin robot not stop Atkins earlier before he throws down the shamrock discs??
BUT, the rest is so good these annoyances are pushed away and leave us with a very entertaining an satisfying movie.
A great opening sequence..with the superb Carpenter/Howarth score pounding away nicely.
A REALLY NASTY death via eye poking and skull snapping (the sight of the inner bone pushing up againat the nose is wonderfully icky.
Some great Halloween atmosphere as well..especially with the excellent montage of the kid going home to watch the 'give away'.
The Los Angeles (against the City lights) and the Phoenix (a line of kids against the red light of the setting sun) segments are highly effective.
And the ad's (another love or loathe feature) are wonderfully annoying!!
The gore is also expertly done.
Burman does a great job with the blood spraying, very painful looking head pulling and the ever so gruesome aftermath of the lasered mouth..all rictus teeth and blood soaked eyes.
the drill death (HEY, IT'S THE 80'S..THE DECADE OF THE DRILL DEATH!!) is also very nasty without actually showing anything.
Performances are ok..I always like Atkin and he deserved a bigger career. His acting while he tries to persuade his Wife (Nancy Loomis from "Halloween") to get rid of the masks is excellent..as is his deflated shock after ripping the robots wire innards out.
Top bit of mad screaming at the end as well...An ending that is delightfully evil.
O'Herlihy is a bit hammy (he was in "Twin Peaks" as well) but he's a good villian and his speech about the real meaning of Halloween is nicely dark and creepy.
The nods to Carpenter are fun to.....
It's a cheekily wicked idea to have "Halloween" itself as the film that will lead into the 'killer ad's'....
The classical music that is playing when the lady gets lasered is the same music that Adrienne Barbeau pays as she drive to the lighthouse in "The Fog"....
The framing of the shots where Atkins and Nelkin are walking around while being watched are the same as "Halloween", with the half back and shoulders of the robot set up exactly like the scenes of Myers watching Jamie Lee Curtis.
The film also has ideas that now seem very insightful........
The mass coverage of your every move by CCTV is now a welcome and not so welcome reality in every town and city.
And if made now the whole idea of a specific brand name being wanted over 'lesser' makes would be very topical.
The fact is "Silver Shamrock" is 'Adidas' and 'Nike'....Atkin's kids do not want his 'other brand', cheap masks..they want the "Silver Shamrock", masks that are the hip and cool make to have...Oh dear....if only they had gone for Atkin's non brand masks they wouldn't have spiders crawling out their noses!!
And if you can't see and appreciate all that....OPEN YOUR EYES!
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Post by Bartwald on Oct 31, 2004 13:11:58 GMT -5
Nice defence, surely. But, as you said, this HIII is generally a love or loathe affair. I, for instance, think that H20 is the best in the series. Including the original! What about Halloween: Resurrection, 42nd? Not one of the weakest Halloweens in your books? |
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Post by 42ndstreetfreak on Oct 31, 2004 15:19:24 GMT -5
After the shit heap that was "H20" i had no wish to see it.
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Oct 31, 2004 18:18:01 GMT -5
Well, uh, that's one way to get us to see your side of things, I guess. I've only seen the first three and H2O. And frankly, none of them can hold a candle to the original. The only one that exists in "my world", or my DVD collection, is HALLOWEEN. |
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Post by 42ndstreetfreak on Nov 1, 2004 0:36:59 GMT -5
Well, uh, that's one way to get us to see your side of things, I guess. ::) I've only seen the first three and H2O. And frankly, none of them can hold a candle to the original. The only one that exists in "my world", or my DVD collection, is HALLOWEEN. It was lighthearted obviously...use your common. My side of things, and what a damn fine side it is, was expressed with typical skill and knowledge in the rest of the post. Damn, i'm good! |
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Nov 1, 2004 9:46:45 GMT -5
It was lighthearted obviously...use your common. Use your common, er, sense? Easy there, big guy. I didn't take it seriously. Which is why I used the Maybe I should've added a as well. |
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Post by Bartwald on Nov 1, 2004 9:51:29 GMT -5
Oh, I know people who think it's a cool movie. No kidding. Anyway - now you can all see that I kidded you not ;D |
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Nov 1, 2004 9:56:36 GMT -5
With almost religious fervor apparently.  |
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That was my reaction when I first saw it. 
