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Post by Bartwald on May 12, 2008 12:59:54 GMT -5
Written by the guys who brought us "Wings" and "Frasier", directed by the man who gave us "Cheers", starring Patricia Heaton, Kelsey Grammer AND the great Fred Willard - what's not to like?
Anyone watches this?
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Post by slayrrr666 on May 13, 2008 10:06:38 GMT -5
Huge fan of this show. Just like Fraiser, goes for hilarity but not afraid to dwell in the sentimental. Definitely enjoyable, and with one bonafide classic in my opinion already:
After being castrated by his inability to care about anything, Chuck gets a pet goldfish, only to have it accidentally killed and must keep replacing it to keep the clueless Kelly nonethewiser, only for the replacement to keep getting knocked off in truely hilarious manners.
I laughed out my voice when it first premiered, and, after recording it on a repeat, have enjoyed it thoroughly ever since.
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Post by Bartwald on May 14, 2008 16:05:48 GMT -5
I've just found out on imdb that the show's been canceled. Damn - just when I started to like it!
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Post by slayrrr666 on May 15, 2008 10:01:12 GMT -5
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Post by Quorthon on May 29, 2008 8:22:17 GMT -5
Cancelled, huh? Big surprise from Fox. They never give any show a chance anymore--which is why I typically don't even watch them. If the show doesn't instantly garner more viewers than CSI or Lost, or a few years ago, Friends or Seinfeld, they drop it fast as can be. Then again, it would be nice if they came up with more original shows. Every new show is either ultra-cliche', a sad knock-off, or just plain moved around from night to night often playing, replaying, and overplaying the same few episodes again and again. Just when The War at Home started becoming tolerable, it was canned. No new Fox sitcom can seem to last beyond two seasons.
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Post by slayrrr666 on May 29, 2008 10:15:58 GMT -5
They let their fucking dramas run longer than they should, which just pisses me off since they're beyond shit, but let the really good shows that actually have a premise that can be played out over more than one season go on longer than it should, yet the one show that's actually good and might have an opportunity to go beyond a year or two cut before it's ready.
This year was a great introduction, as his identity as the father was held out over the entire season, only revealed to the staff at the end. Plus, there's a new station manager that was making me laugh just take over in charge, and with running those two storylines for a year or so, there could've been a whole wave of comedy to come from that. Plus, all the incidental storyline stuff that came along, as you know Fred Williard can't go for long periods of time without getting a laugh, and the others there had their moments of brilliance.
It's just really frustrating at times to want to like Fox a lot, but at least they're not screwing up my Sundays. If we can just get King of the Hill off and bring back Futurama in it's spot, then I would have absolutely no beef there at all.
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Post by Quorthon on May 30, 2008 8:23:45 GMT -5
Dude, drop King of the Hill? No way! It's the only animated show on Fox where the writing has actually gotten better in the past few years! Where The Simpsons gets lazier and lazier and more preachy, and Family Guy and American Dad continue to wallow in often extreme low-brow humor, King of the Hill has gotten better.
The episode when Bill was dating a woman who had a child with John Redcorn? Holy shit, was that a riot. Dale figured out that Joseph and this girl were brother and sister, and still thought they were his and concucted a story about aliens stealing his sperm to make this girl. And then he worked with John Redcorn so that Bill wouldn't be raising "his" daughter! That episode had some of the best writing to be found on Fox Sunday nights.
Futurama's revival will be on Comedy Central, anyway, when they finish up the other three movies and cut all four of them up as a new 16-part season.
If they were to dump something to bring back Futurama--I'd rather it be American Dad. I do typically enjoy Family Guy, but American Dad is a pretty pathetic show. It's intention to be a really half-assed modern Archie Bunker is just awful and pretty much every episode languishes in predictability. The only saving grace is the gay alien, Roger. It's still a show that relies too much on shock and offensive dialog to get a laugh. King of the Hill still relies on quality writing.
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Post by slayrrr666 on May 30, 2008 10:29:41 GMT -5
I never got King of the Hill. It's one of the single unfunny animated sitcoms I've ever seen, and I've seen ones where the entire premise is built around alien tentacle rape. American Dad is tons funnier. I prefer the lazy over the smartness, since the only shows in history to do that and be funny were Cheers and Frasier. Otherwise, the lazier and more ripped-off they were, the easier I got into them.
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Post by Quorthon on May 30, 2008 15:23:31 GMT -5
I can only shake my head. Maybe it comes from my down-to-earth country-boy nature, but I really "get" King of the Hill. I initially didn't like it because Mike Judge used a few too many "carry-overs" from Beavis and Butt-Head, but those wound down and vanished within a couple episodes of the first season. Hank Hill, of course, was essentially born from the old guy in Beavis and Butt-Head who was always having trouble with them. I know a guy on another site who loves the crap out of the show. He uses Dale Gribble's false name, Rusty Shakelford, to order pizza.
With Hank Hill, they do the ultra-all-American stereotype right where he has values and sensibility. With Stan Smith on American Dad, it's all a cruel mockery as if having "traditional American values" is stupid and obsolete--and grossly stereotyped. It's like he's meant to be an unholy, shitty combo rip-off of Archie Bunker and Hank Hill.
Hank Hill rules, I tell you whut.
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