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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Dec 1, 2005 1:29:13 GMT -5
I don't mean to offend--there are a few good teenagers, some that aren't total assholes. But I remember being a teenager. Damn near every other teenager I knew was a little shithead--me and my friends included. Most teenagers have no respect for anybody or anything. It's one of the reasons I so loathe PG-13 films. The fucking teenagers--talking all through the damn thing, laughing loudly at their own jokes, dicking around with cell phones, generally being all-around aggravating and ruining the movie-going experience. There are those assholes occasionally during R-rated pictures, but the generally, there's far fewer of them. Amen, brother! Smitty, that may not have been you're high school experience, but believe me, it is some people's. I went to high school in Detroit in the mid-eighties. 'nuff said.
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Post by ZapRowsdower on Dec 1, 2005 2:30:20 GMT -5
Was AHOV set in the 80's? I'd be willing to forgive the subplot if I find it were set in the 80's.
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Post by Quorthon on Dec 1, 2005 10:08:56 GMT -5
Just wait, man. A few years from now, you'll be looking at the teenagers with some disdain. You'll be wondering what the hell is wrong with their parents that made them so crappy.
The only real difference between me and every other person is that I hated teenagers when I was one, like I said. Before I had grown up.
Here's the thing, as I just remembered it, that bothered me about the History of Violence--why the fuck does every movie with teenagers these days have them smoking pot? Was I the only teenager that wasn't a drug user or what? Sometimes I get the feeling I'm about the last person left that doesn't waste precious time and brain cells on chemical abuse--and every movie portraying every teenager doing any chemical--hell, it's gettin' a little old.
Sure, this is a minor problem with AHoV, as we only saw the teenage son wankering up on pot once, but why does every other movie these days seem to have that?
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Post by ZapRowsdower on Dec 1, 2005 11:03:39 GMT -5
It's really funny, but the way society looks at teenagers today, I've really only met one -- that's right, one -- person who's actually like that. And by the time I met him I was already out of high school. I met him while I was working at the movie theater. The laziest, most intellectually devoid usher I've ever worked with. He was the audience they were looking for when they made xXx 2. And believe me, he did go see that. And he walked out of that like a Catholic would walk out of the Passion of the Christ. I was embarassed for him.
But other than that, of all the people I used to hang out with in high school (and I used to know a lot), I never met the MTV stereotypes that most adults think of teenagers. Maybe it's because I was in the theater program, and that attracts naturally smarter students?
I don't think I'm gonna look back on teenagers with much disdain because for the most part, I loved high school.
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Post by Quorthon on Dec 1, 2005 11:30:48 GMT -5
I sure didn't. I hated High School. Of course, I was part of the "losers" group, but what the hell. I participated in nothing, showed little effort, and was generally all-around bored. I spent my senior year in easy "anyone could do it" classes. Except for Chemistry and Trigonometry. Other than that--cooking class, ceramics class, Wildlife Management... Study Hall. This might sound like I'm basing my teenage stereotype on my past high school hum-drum, but I do see the same shiftlessness, but more apathy and disrespect, in most teenagers I see these days.
I didn't bother going to my 5-year reunion, and likely won't bother with the 10-year reunion. Didn't attend my junior or senior proms, and for Homecoming King, I think I voted for the Unabomber. One of my friends voted for his "grandpa's balls."
10 year high school reunion... not too far off...?
Oh god.
I'm getting old.... and what the hell are these brown spots on my hands?!?! The spot! The spot won't come out!!! Ohhh double double toil and trouble!!!!
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Post by Pulpmariachi on Dec 1, 2005 13:14:01 GMT -5
Something wicked this way comes.
Smitty, I was going to go off on a tirade about me being Catholic and loathing The Passion of the Christ, but my roommate keeps reminding me that I'm not "enough-Catholic" to have an opinion and junk since I'm not always "declaring my life for God" or whatever, so I won't.
I'm still a teenager!! That's right! 19! Yeah, but in high school I never really noticed that kind of stuff (I haven't seen A History of Violence yet so I'm just basing it off your opinions and junk), mainly because I was a total AV geek, and the spent most of my time around the video equipment editing movies on our AVID (baby!) and just playing with our cameras (we had the same model of camera Danny Boyle used to shoot 28 Days Later).
But like you Quorth, I never went to my prom or homecoming or whatever. One of my friends got nominated which was weird, so I voted for him, but that's about all I did for that. I was the director for our school announcements and that was about the only thing that I was ever involved with. Loved it though. Oh wait, there was Jazz Band, so I was part bandgeek.
My high school was filled with all those typical high school politics that make you want to throw something out a window. I just never was apart of them, always off doing my own thing. In fact, I really didn't have those kind of mean people who are just jerks for no reason bother me until I came to college. Funny.
Yeah, so there's my tirade.
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Post by Quorthon on Dec 1, 2005 16:04:22 GMT -5
For me, college only carried over one preppy asshole that felt the need to be a prick to everyone. Of course, he dressed in the most expensive clothes, so the valley girls were all over him--despite him talking to them like they were retarded babboons. Hoiw these shallow dimwits ever decided that an Art school was where they belonged is beyond me...
In High School, things drastically improved for me when I made the decision not to be a cowering little pussy everytime one of the jock assholes decided to try to be tough around me. I developed an abrasive, sarcastic, and weird attitude that was my little way of saying "do not disturb." Also, I stabbed one of those redneck motherfuckers with a mechanical pencil when he wouldn't leave me alone. After that, he tended to keep to himself.
There were two huge jocks at college that were both really cool to me, so I can't necessarily stereotype them all as assholes. One of them joked about how I actually did an picture of a kitty cat for one assignment.
"Which one's yours?" "The cat." "You drew a kitty?" "Yeah... what?" "You... drew a kitty."
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Post by ZapRowsdower on Dec 2, 2005 2:20:37 GMT -5
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Post by Termination on Dec 2, 2005 2:53:00 GMT -5
I can't compare teens from the film, sinse I have not seen it yet but I have read you're guys comments on teens in general & will just say this. When you are in your mid to late 20's you will have a different perspective of teens & yourself. Its called maturity & in most cases you'll recollect all the stupid things you did as a teen & as a result of this, you'll pass judgement on all teens in a general sense.
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Post by Quorthon on Dec 2, 2005 8:52:12 GMT -5
I can't compare teens from the film, sinse I have not seen it yet but I have read you're guys comments on teens in general & will just say this. When you are in your mid to late 20's you will have a different perspective of teens & yourself. Its called maturity & in most cases you'll recollect all the stupid things you did as a teen & as a result of this, you'll pass judgement on all teens in a general sense. 26
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Post by Bartwald on Dec 3, 2005 2:39:18 GMT -5
Ahh, me too! And it does prove that the "school part" of the movie was rather weak.
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Post by Quorthon on Dec 4, 2005 10:12:15 GMT -5
Ahh, me too! And it does prove that the "school part" of the movie was rather weak. Funny though it was, and nowhere near as funny as that re-written Episode III, I still think the High School was valid. I just think Smitty must've attended the one High School in all of America that isn't awash with mind-numbing, pointless asshole teenagers. I think there may have been something in the milk they were served at lunch... A pointless-teenage-asshole suppressant or something.
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Dec 6, 2005 14:01:37 GMT -5
Damn funny, as are most of the movies they've ripped on, but doesn't change the fact that I enjoyed the movie. Anybody read their take on FANTASTIC FOUR? Pretty damn funny and I was thinking some of the same things while watching it .
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Post by ZapRowsdower on Dec 6, 2005 15:32:43 GMT -5
I just think Smitty must've attended the one High School in all of America that isn't awash with mind-numbing, pointless asshole teenagers. I think there may have been something in the milk they were served at lunch... A pointless-teenage-asshole suppressant or something. Actually, I was surrounded by intellectual drama students, so I was constantly around social equals. The rest of the school... the real assholes found out about home schooling, so they transferred out. The rest of the students either had better things to do or were so brainwashed by MTV that discussing how much of an asshole Simon Cowell is was more important than beating someone up because they beat them at baseball. ;D
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Post by Termination on Dec 6, 2005 17:22:07 GMT -5
Recently got word on another site that the region 1 DvD release will be out this February 28th 2006. I look forward to seeing it than.
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