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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Dec 6, 2005 18:53:29 GMT -5
I thought this was "Pretty good".
Not as good as Tim Burton's NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS, but still a worthy effort.
I wish a little more work had gone into the story as it was a little thin, but oh well, the voice work is good and the visuals are stunning. Love the character designs.
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Post by Phoenix on Dec 7, 2005 11:07:16 GMT -5
'Pretty Good' for me too. I agree the best part were the character designs. The Corpse Bride herself was awesome. It was refreshing to see real clothes on the characters - especially the bride herself. A very visual movie for myself and I'll probably buy it on DVD when it comes out for the ol' Tim Burton collection.
I always like to put some movie trivia in the individual movie threads, so here's some courtesy of IMDB:
* The puppets were made from stainless steel armatures covered with silicone skin.
* The first stop-motion feature to be edited using Apple's Final Cut Pro.
* This is the first feature to be made with commercial digital still photography cameras (31 Canon EOS-1D MARK 2 SLR cameras with Nikon Lenses) instead of film cameras.
* As an indication of the painstaking nature of stop-motion animation, it took the animators 28 separate shots to make the bride blink.
* When Victor plays the piano, he leans back and the nameplate says "Harryhausen", a reference to stop-motion animator Ray Harryhausen.
* The puppets used neither of the industry standards of replaceable heads (like those used on The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)) or replaceable mouths (like those used by Aardman Studios in Wallace & Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (2005)) but instead used precision crafted clockwork heads, adjusted by hidden keys. This allowed for unprecedented subtlety, but was apparently even more painstaking than the already notoriously arduous animation. One animator even reported having recurring nightmares of adjusting his own facial expression in this fashion.
* The maggot's voice, mannerisms and facial appearance are an impersonation of Peter Lorre.
* The puppets were two feet tall and some of the stages were so large that animators could actually fit through the set doors with minimal crouching.
* This is the first major release of the newly-formed Laika Studios in Portland, Oregon (formerly Vinton Studios) now owned by Phil Knight.
* At one point, Lord Finnis Everglot mistakenly calls Victor "Vincent", a reference to Tim Burton's first stop-motion animated short.
* Had a 55-week shoot, during which 109,440 individually animated frames had to be set up and filmed.
* The skeletons in the underworld perform several of the routines from The Skeleton Dance (1929).
* Small moving elements, such as candle flames, were photographed in MiniDV.
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Post by Quorthon on Dec 7, 2005 11:49:28 GMT -5
My wife and I never got around to seeing this. Partly because on the message board she frequents most, "Vampire Freaks," was overloaded with little goth brats who wouldn't stop talking about it. She got so sick of them that she lost all interest in the movie.
Damn little goth brats.
Sure is a lot of crappy people masquerading as Tim Burton fans out there... "Because he's ssoooo dark..."
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Post by Termination on Dec 7, 2005 11:50:42 GMT -5
Def want to see this. & am kicking myself for not owning A Nightmare Before Christmas.
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Dec 8, 2005 8:22:54 GMT -5
Damn little goth brats. Sure is a lot of crappy people masquerading as Tim Burton fans out there... "Because he's ssoooo dark..." Let me guess, they watch Burton films, listen to The Cure and Bauhaus and read lots of Anne Rice? Not knocking any of that stuff, Burton movies are mostly cool, The Cure's "Disintegration" is one of my all-time favorite records and I've actually read, "Interview With The Vampire", but it seems to me a lot of those type kids are just poseurs. Here's a tip for the Goth kids. If you can buy decorative items for your bedroom or the basement in your parent's house at either Spencer's Gifts or Hot Topic, that stuff is not really Goth or "underground". A "real" Goth wouldn't even be caught dead at the mall. That pale, dressed in all black look, only really works at underground clubs and at night. It always seems hilarious to me to see some suburbanite kids walking around the mall in broad daylight dressed like psuedo-vampires. Talk about, "I'm really a rich white kid, but I like to piss off my hardworking parents and this is a cry for attention!". My understanding is that Burton's A NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS is revered by the Goth kids the same way that Depalma's SCARFACE is revered by rappers. |
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Post by LivingDeadGirl on Dec 8, 2005 18:24:50 GMT -5
the message board she frequents most, "Vampire Freaks," That sounds like a board I'd enjoy.  I haven't seen the movie yet either. I'll have to put it on my rental list when it comes out. |
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Post by Quorthon on Dec 9, 2005 11:05:58 GMT -5
the message board she frequents most, "Vampire Freaks," That sounds like a board I'd enjoy. I haven't seen the movie yet either. I'll have to put it on my rental list when it comes out. She says there's a "cultural irony" (my term) if you will, on that board as there is on the Metal one I frequent (Metal-Archives.com)--the vampire freaks doesn't have a whole lot of "vampires." Most are people like my wife with interests in similar things: Old Anne Rice, horror movie, art, photography, random shit. Although, she does deal with a ton of little goth brats that are quick to "look for the deep dark" in anything they like--and they overly worship Tim Burton. The "cultural irony" of the Metal-Archives can be summed up with this one conversation that took place: A real, honest-to-hell Satanist showed up and was asking about anyone else who might be a Satanist. He was heavily ridiculed (the site is mostly Atheists--like me--and some Christians, and at least one Jew) and his thread was turned into a discussion about the greatest scientific minds of the last millenium. A large part of which was my doing. Someone on there said that, "only on the Metal-Archives could a topic about Satanism become a discussion on the greatest scientific minds of the last millenium." The irony, of course, was that the Vampire Freaks actually has very few (if any) actual vampires (mostly art nerds) and the Metal-Archives has almost no Satanists--and Metalheads are very often stereotyped as such. |
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Post by LivingDeadGirl on Dec 9, 2005 17:24:33 GMT -5
Most are people like my wife with interests in similar things: Old Anne Rice, horror movie, art, photography, random shit. Like I said, something I would enjoy. Putting up w/ the brats doesn't sound like fun though... |
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Post by Quorthon on Dec 12, 2005 12:11:40 GMT -5
Most are people like my wife with interests in similar things: Old Anne Rice, horror movie, art, photography, random shit. Like I said, something I would enjoy. Putting up w/ the brats doesn't sound like fun though... She's a Moderator on, like 2 or 3 forums, and she locks threads of the brats pretty often I guess. Somebody on there started a thread ridiculing all the kiddies that call themselves movie fans but only watch Tim Burton flicks--or dark crap like The Crow--and my wife stickied it. Apparently, there's a vast shortage of people that could be considered actual movie fans. Vampire Freaks.com or something like that. |
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Post by LivingDeadGirl on Dec 12, 2005 17:58:16 GMT -5
Cool, I'll have to check it out.
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