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Post by Quorthon on Dec 9, 2005 11:27:10 GMT -5
Ohh...
Mmmm...
Well, I don't know if I want to sit through something preachy.
I'll wait and see how the ads and reviews look. Well, maybe not the reviews. No one in "the biz" ever dares to say anything bad about a Spielberg film these days.
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Post by Pulpmariachi on Dec 9, 2005 12:00:01 GMT -5
Did you not look around at War of the Worlds?
Or would you blame that all on Cruise.
Yeah, I really don't care about the "preachiness" or whatever (mainly because I'm a pacifist, whoo non-violence in everything but entertainment).
I'm still going to see the movie.
No matter what.
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Post by Quorthon on Dec 13, 2005 15:10:33 GMT -5
Did you not look around at War of the Worlds? Or would you blame that all on Cruise. Yeah, I really don't care about the "preachiness" or whatever (mainly because I'm a pacifist, whoo non-violence in everything but entertainment). I'm still going to see the movie. No matter what. What if you have to be violent to get to the movie...? Like, punch some dude in the nads to get in the theater? And, uh... I didn't get to see War of the Worlds in the theater... I haven't seen it yet.
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Post by Pulpmariachi on Dec 13, 2005 18:46:02 GMT -5
I was totally hyperbolizing.
Alright, so I wouldn't go that far, thanks.
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Post by ZapRowsdower on Dec 14, 2005 17:10:23 GMT -5
2 Golden Globe nominations: Best Director, Best Screenplay. Surprisingly, no Best Picture. I don't get it. If the director and screenwriter get a nomination, how does the picture itself not get nominated?
I mean, even if the performances were mediocre (which they most likely weren't), there have been best picture WINNERS that haven't even received a single acting nomination. Still, how does Munich NOT warrant a Best Picture nomination when A History of Violence does? I'm not quite understanding this. Maybe no one will ever understand the mentality of these awards show voters.
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Post by Pulpmariachi on Dec 14, 2005 17:24:49 GMT -5
Okay okay we get it, you didn't like A History of Violence! I wonder if Spielberg'll pick something up though, especially because some Jewish community or another just blasted the film for not being as sympethic to them or something (I don't know, that's how I read it, but it wasn't very in-depth reading on my part). Will talent prevail? Or politics surronding the movie industry?
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Post by 42ndstreetfreak on Dec 14, 2005 18:00:57 GMT -5
I'm no fan of the 'Jewish Cause'...I can't stand any organised religions and all the petty, nasty shit that comes with them...but they have a right to be pissed at the film.
They had every right to go and hunt down those that cold bloodedly targetted and murdered it's athletes. Being an Arab and a Muslim does not mean you are immune if you carry out a brutal terrorist act. Though nowadays you may well think so. They had a right to hunt the fuckers down. I'm sure mistakes were made...but all of it was brought on by the initial atrocity, so the blood is on the terrorist's hands.
The Brazilian guy shot in London by mistake died ultimately for one reason and one reason only...Islamic suicide bombers targetting civilian transport not long before. Just as we have a right to protect ourselves by any means and meet out justice to those involved...so did the Jewish authorities.
As for the Nominations though I do agree. This is a very strange decision. Spielberg was here before. I think it was on "The Color Purple" (not sure) where the film was up for Best Film and yet he was not up for Best Director!!! How the hell THAT works out i do not know!
I'll still stick to "Jaws" though. ;D
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Post by ZapRowsdower on Dec 14, 2005 18:14:37 GMT -5
I didn't "not like" A History of Violence, but I do feel it is one of the year's most overrated films. Syriana is up there, too... and THAT was a movie I did not like.
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Post by Quorthon on Dec 15, 2005 10:48:20 GMT -5
What's the deal with Syriana? I'm gradually getting interested in it.
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Post by ZapRowsdower on Dec 15, 2005 14:35:42 GMT -5
My deal with Syriana is that it failed to hold my interest. I was completely apathetic toward all of the characters. I like a little politics in my movies from time to time, but Syriana was more politics than movie.
Maybe it's just me though. I wasn't a big fan of Traffic, either.
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Post by LivingDeadGirl on Dec 28, 2005 18:04:36 GMT -5
From Yahoo News:
GAZA (Reuters) - The Palestinian mastermind of the Munich Olympics attack in which 11 Israeli athletes died said on Tuesday he had no regrets and that Steven Spielberg's new film about the incident would not deliver reconciliation. The Hollywood director has called "Munich," which dramatises the 1972 raid and Israel's reprisals against members of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), his "prayer for peace."
Mohammed Daoud planned the Munich attack on behalf of PLO splinter group Black September, but did not take part and does not feature in the film.
He voiced outrage at not being consulted for the thriller and accused Spielberg of pandering to the Jewish state.
"If he really wanted to make it a prayer for peace he should have listened to both sides of the story and reflected reality, rather than serving the Zionist side alone," Daoud told Reuters by telephone from the Syrian capital, Damascus.
Daoud said he had not seen the film, which will only reach most screens outside the United States next month.
But he noted that Spielberg arranged previews in Israel, where some have accused "Munich" of lacking historical accuracy.
Several Israeli historians have also complained about what they see as a moral symmetry in the film between slain Olympians and the Palestinians assassinated by the Mossad spy service.
"Spielberg showed the movie to widows of the Israeli victims, but he neglected the families of Palestinian victims," said Daoud. "How many Palestinian civilians were killed before and after Munich?"
MOSSAD ASSASSINS
The Munich attack was "one of the pivotal moments of modern terrorism," the Los Angeles Times said last week.
Daoud used different terms.
"We did not target Israeli civilians," he said.
"Some of them (the athletes) had taken part in wars and killed many Palestinians. Whether a pianist or an athlete, any Israeli is a soldier."
Spielberg's producer, Kathleen Kennedy, told a preview audience at Princeton University that a Palestinian consultant was used for "Munich." She did not say who it was.
"I do feel that we spent an enormous amount of time in discussion and put effort into exploring a fair and balanced look at the Palestinians that were involved in the story," she said, according to an official transcript of the event.
Historians noted that "Munich" presents Mossad assassins as having hunted 11 members of the PLO, while other accounts put the final Palestinian toll at as many as 18.
Daoud survived a 1981 shooting in Poland that he blamed on a Mossad mole in the rival Palestinian faction of Abu Nidal.
Though Israel allowed him to visit the occupied West Bank after 1993 peace accords, and Mossad veterans say the reprisals are over, Daoud said he feels he could still be targeted.
"When I chose a long time ago to be a revolutionary fighter I prepared to be a martyr. I am not afraid, because people's souls are in God's hands, not Israel's," he said.
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Post by 42ndstreetfreak on Dec 28, 2005 20:47:40 GMT -5
Who cares!?
Find the prick and shoot him.
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