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Post by LivingDeadGirl on Feb 14, 2005 16:02:11 GMT -5
Album of the Year: "Genius Loves Company," Ray Charles and various artists.
Record of the Year: "Here We Go Again," Ray Charles and Norah Jones.
Song of the Year: "Daughters," John Mayer.
Rock Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal: "Vertigo," U2.
Country Album: "Van Lear Rose," Loretta Lynn.
Rap Album: "The College Dropout," Kanye West.
R&B Album: "The Diary of Alicia Keys," Alicia Keys.
New Artist: Maroon 5.
Rock Album: "American Idiot," Green Day.
Pop Performance by a Duo or Group With Vocal: "Heaven," Los Lonely Boys.
Male R&B Vocal Performance: "Call My Name," Prince.
Score Soundtrack Album for a Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media: "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King," Howard Shore, composer.
Song Written for a Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media: "Into the West," Annie Lennox, Howard Shore and Fran Walsh, songwriters, track from "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King."
Short Form Music Video: "Vertigo," U2.
Long Form Music Video: "Concert for George," Various Artists.
Female Country Vocal Performance: "Redneck Woman," Gretchen Wilson.
Male Country Vocal Performance: "Live Like You Were Dying," Tim McGraw.
Country Performance by a Duo or Group With Vocal: "Top of the World," Dixie Chicks.
Country Collaboration With Vocals: "Portland Oregon," Loretta Lynn and Jack White.
Country Instrumental Performance: "Earl's Breakdown," Nitty Gritty Dirt Band featuring Earl Scruggs, Randy Scruggs, Vassar Clements and Jerry Douglas.
Country Song: "Live Like You Were Dying," Tim Nichols and Craig Wiseman (Tim McGraw).
Female R&B Vocal Performance: "If I Ain't Got You," Alicia Keys.
R&B Performance by a Duo or Group With Vocals: "My Boo," Usher and Alicia Keys.
Traditional R&B Vocal Performance: "Musicology," Prince.
Urban/Alternative Performance: "Cross My Mind," Jill Scott.
R&B Song: "You Don't Know My Name," Alicia Keys, Harold Lilly and Kanye West (Alicia Keys).
Contemporary R&B Album: "Confessions," Usher.
Rap Solo Performance: "99 Problems," Jay-Z.
Rap Performance by a Duo or Group: "Let's Get It Started," The Black Eyed Peas.
Rap/Sung Collaboration: "Yeah!" Usher featuring Lil Jon and Ludacris.
Rap Song: "Jesus Walks," Miri Ben Ari, C. Smith and Kanye West (Kanye West).
Female Pop Vocal Performance: "Sunrise," Norah Jones.
Male Pop Vocal Performance: "Daughters," John Mayer.
Pop Collaboration With Vocals: "Here We Go Again," Ray Charles and Norah Jones.
Pop Instrumental Performance: "11th Commandment," Ben Harper.
Pop Instrumental Album: "Henry Mancini: Pink Guitar," Various Artists.
Pop Vocal Album: "Genius Loves Company," Ray Charles and Various Artists.
Traditional Pop Vocal Album: "Stardust ... The Great American Songbook Volume III," Rod Stewart.
Dance Recording: "Toxic," Britney Spears.
Electronic/Dance Album: "Kish Kash," Basement Jaxx.
Alternative Music Album: "A Ghost Is Born," Wilco.
Solo Rock Vocal Performance: "Code of Silence," Bruce Springsteen.
Hard Rock Performance: "Slither," Velvet Revolver.
Metal Performance: "Whiplash," Motorhead.
Rock Instrumental Performance: "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow," Brian Wilson.
Rock Song: "Vertigo," Bono, Adam Clayton, The Edge and Larry Mullen (U2).
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Post by Pulpmariachi on Feb 14, 2005 18:23:13 GMT -5
Yeah...the Grammys.
I'm really glad that Ray Charles won for Best Album, because he was my second choice (after Green Day, I am NOT a fan of rap and "R&B" [R&B is the Blues Brothers and Charles, not Alicia Keys or Usher or whatever]), so that was cool. I was kinda bummed Modest Mouse didn't win anything, but it kinda goes for them and I think it's better on further inspection. I'll check out that Wilco album soon.
Led Zeppelin was honored with a Lifetime Achievement Award last night, and I just thought, "Now they're doing it?! This should have happened a decade ago!" But it's good to see they were recognized.
Truthfully, I was just switching back and forth between this and Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Salad.
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Feb 15, 2005 18:22:49 GMT -5
Led Zeppelin was honored with a Lifetime Achievement Award last night, and I just thought, "Now they're doing it?! This should have happened a decade ago!" But it's good to see they were recognized. Couldn't agree more. Personally, I haven't cared about the Grammys in years. I just don't relate to the majority of the artists being nominated or performing. |
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Post by Quorthon on Mar 8, 2005 3:07:20 GMT -5
Personally, I haven't cared about the Grammys in years. I just don't relate to the majority of the artists being nominated or performing. I hate them, they aren't real awards. They reward people for high record sales and shallow, lackluster music. Blah. You know how hard it is to sell an album when you're talentless? Just be really obnoxious and controversial--the weak minded masses will eat it up. Look at Eminem--no musical ability, no songwriting ability, zero musicianship, can't sing, all offensive drivel. Wow. That's so hard to pull off, please, reward him some more. Pathetic. The grammy's only pay attention to Billboard high sellers, well, 90% of the time. Underground and independent music has 1000% more talent, thought, musicanship, and skill than any pop performer. Nuts to pop. Little bitter, ain't I? |
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Post by LivingDeadGirl on Mar 8, 2005 19:02:52 GMT -5
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Mar 8, 2005 20:48:24 GMT -5
Look at Eminem--no musical ability, no songwriting ability, zero musicianship, can't sing, all offensive drivel. Wow. That's so hard to pull off, please, reward him some more. Pathetic. Underground and independent music has 1000% more talent, thought, musicanship, and skill than any pop performer. I don't agree with either of these points. I'm not even a rap fan per se, but even I think Eminem is talented. Can't sing? Since when does a rapper need to be able to sing? Hell, even the stuffy Academy saw fit to give him an Oscar. And saying that all underground music is good, is just as weak as saying that all popular music sucks. Both are blanket statements and neither is true. I listened to alternative music way back when it was truly alternative, and not on every radio station, and while there was a lot that was brilliant, there was some crap that was on a par with the latest offerings by J-Lo. Don't be a hater, you know it's true. ;D |
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Post by Quorthon on Mar 8, 2005 20:59:14 GMT -5
I didn't say all underground was good--there's some real crap down here (Six Feet Under, no pun intended). I just don't think there's talent anywhere in a song that is nothing more than his bitching about his mommy or swearing uncontrollably. And I've heard Swedish bands that have a better grasp of the English language than Eminem does. I hate Christina Aguilera, too, but at least she can sing--I'll admit that, she has some talent. Eminem is all show and no substance.
The Academy actually gave him an Oscar? I thought that was just a nomination! EGAD! And to think, I've never heard a single positive thing about 8 Mile. Gross. (A friend of mine that has 99% same movie taste as me warned against it--we only disagreed so far on Hulk and.... I don't remember the other one...)
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Mar 9, 2005 9:12:20 GMT -5
No, but you did say, "Underground and independent music has 1000% more talent, thought, musicanship, and skill than any pop performer." To me, that sounds like you're saying all underground is good and all pop is bad. And just to clarify, by "pop" I'm not referring neccesarily to all the throwaway hits out there by whoever the latest Teen Queen is. I have no use for that crap. I'm talking about "popular" music. Into that category you can throw in everybody from The Beatles, The Stones, Zeppelin, The Who, Black Sabbath, Tool, Jane's Addiction, The Cure and anyone else who has ever sold more than 500,000 records and had successful tours.
You obviously haven't listened to much of his music if you think that's what it's all really about. That's your perogative. I realize some of his stuff is mysoginist, etc., and he has issues with his mom and ex-wife, but a lot of his stuff isn't like that, and he pokes fun at himself quite often in his songs and videos. He also writes lots of songs regarding his daughter who he obviously adores. And how did his song, "Stan" become such a huge worldwide hit with his so-called uncontrolable swearing? Because obviously, he can control it. Definitely not the typical rapper.
Yeah, "Best Song". I thought that was fantastic that they would give credit to a song like that. There were tons of positive reviews of the movie, 8 MILE when it was in theaters. You must've missed them all. Unless of course you're just talking about the opinions of people you personally know. I'm not saying it was the best movie of all time or anything like that. But for a "rags to riches" story, it wasn't bad, and I've definitely seen worse. He gave a pretty good performance too.
I wouldn't recommend it to you, because you have this hatred of him already, but for anyone who wants to see a decent movie and doesn't throw up at the sound of his name or music, they'd probably like it.
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Post by Termination on Mar 9, 2005 13:13:35 GMT -5
Grammy's = No Metal There is a rock album of the year, yeah thats pretty much it.  |
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Post by LivingDeadGirl on Mar 9, 2005 16:37:09 GMT -5
Grammy's = No Metal There is a rock album of the year, yeah thats pretty much it. |
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Post by LivingDeadGirl on Mar 9, 2005 16:45:13 GMT -5
I just don't think there's talent anywhere in a song that is nothing more than his bitching about his mommy or swearing uncontrollably. I don't listen to much rap either, but I have to agree w/ Heineken on this one. I like some of his stuff & I would much rather listen to him cursing & whining about his mom & ex-wife than listen to other rappers talk about ho's & beating on women & drugs & killing people & all the other crap you here. |
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Post by Termination on Mar 10, 2005 0:21:20 GMT -5
Metal Performance: "Whiplash," Motorhead. Is that an award for a Metal album?  |
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Mar 10, 2005 8:58:19 GMT -5
Yes. Never heard of Motorhead? They still have Best Metal Performance and Best Hard Rock Performance categories, but unfortunately, I don't think they've actually aired those award presentations on tv in years. The Grammys suck.  |
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Post by Quorthon on Mar 12, 2005 8:53:25 GMT -5
HeiniSky-- thanks for not recommending 8 Mile to me, I wouldn't have bothered. And no, I'm not impressed at all with Eminem, as anyone can tell--I can't specifically pinpoint exactly why--he just rubs me the wrong way--his attitude, his "music," whathaveyou... And at least his Oscar wasn't for acting--I almost lost total respect for that award as well. Sheesh.
I actually don't like the whole idea that "Popular Music" has to refer to everything that's not Classical. The idea of looking up a nobody-knows-about-'em band like Vesperian Sorrow (incredible Symphonic Black Metal) under the "Popular Music" heading at Amazon.com is just bizarre to me. They're incredibly talented, but don't sell enough records, it seems, to even tour out of their home-state!
For me, and metamorphasis to this point began only a couple years ago, I have a growing dislike for really popular music--anything that regularly clogs radio airwaves--as it all seems so watered-down, songs written to make more money. Like Lamb of God's putrid recent sell-out album--they used to be Death Metal. The more underground my tastes went, the less I liked anything popular. Popular "Nu-Metal," (Disturbed, Godsmack, Korn, Mudvayne) for instance, I view as crap. Though, I don't mind Tool and like Shadows Fall. This may very well just be the mindset that grows when someone takes never-look-back plunge into the recesses of underground music--especially, it seems, underground Metal. It doesn't help that most Nu-Metal bands exhibit no ability to write anything original, nor a single song showcasing "musicianship." At any rate, I'm pretty aware that my musical tastes differ quite a bit from most people here, but I'm here for movies (Metal-Archives.com is where I go for music talk), and am doing my best not to be rude or offensive to anyone for their tastes--when I slip up and sound off about how much I loathe Eminem or U2, take it with a grain of salt--just go, "he lives in a completely different world when it comes to music, and he's crazy."
Finally, to round off this gigantic rant, what's this about Motorhead and Whiplash? Did they cover the Metallica song somewhere??
(sorry about the length of this, sometimes I rant rant rant...)
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Mar 12, 2005 12:01:28 GMT -5
Don't worry about it, no one knows more about "ranting' than me. "he lives in a completely different world when it comes to music, and he's crazy." Hey, that's just what I was thinking! ;D It's all good man. I have no problem with people not liking the same music or movies as me, that's what makes us all different, but "blanket statements" just tend to rub me the wrong way. Don't mean to be a dick or anything like that. Oh, but you're wrong on one point. Korn & Disturbed do rock! And Tool are musical gods among men. I will agree with you that Godsmack suck. Hard! ;D They might've been "okay" if there had never been a band called Alice in Chains, but alas... Peace out. |
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