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Post by frankenjohn on Apr 18, 2006 13:50:42 GMT -5
So, I'm watching SCHINDLER'S LIST and laughing my ass off! Oh man, that Ralph Fiennes was a hoot as that Nazi! Not because of stuff that was actually happening on screen, but of funny crap that I was thinking of as he was killing Jews! Yeah, I was essentially writing my own movie in my mind, making bad jokes and not really absorbing the film I was actually watching. Basically, I like to give movies the Mystery Science Theater treatment, whether they deserve it or not. See where I'm going with this?  I found one part of the movie funny: where they hang Amon Goeth. They caqn't kick out the ladder cause he's so fat! LOL! |
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Post by slayrrr666 on Apr 18, 2006 13:53:01 GMT -5
Well, I watched it with my sister, who has the same kind of humor I do, and we came up with many of those lines ourselves watching it for the first time together. That could have something to do with how I felt about this movie, but it's still my opinion of this movie. Just because of it's reputation, I'm supposed to be scared shitless while watching it? Sorry, I don't view films that way. I can call it unintenitally hilarious, and as long as I can back up that claim (which I did, no matter how "lame" the jokes may have been, and they were funny at the time we said them) That's still the way I felt about it.
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Apr 18, 2006 15:17:40 GMT -5
Just because of it's reputation, I'm supposed to be scared shitless while watching it? Sorry, I don't view films that way. I can call it unintenitally hilarious, and as long as I can back up that claim (which I did, no matter how "lame" the jokes may have been, and they were funny at the time we said them) That's still the way I felt about it. No, you're not supposed to be scared shitless because of it's reputation, but I think if it's the first time you're watching it, you are supposed to actually give the movie a chance to have an effect on you. I think if you're going to sit there cracking jokes through the whole thing, it very much defeats the purpose of what the movie's trying to do. And it's only "unintentionally hilarious" because you chose to view it with that Mystery Science Theater mentality and this movie clearly doesn't deserve that. There have been plenty of flicks that have been reviewed in this section that do deserve the MST3K treatment and you've shown them much more respect than this. If you had written something along the lines of, "I watched this film and didn't really find it all that effective and this is why..." then we could have an intelligent discussion about it, but you basically wrote, "I watched this movie and it's hilarious because my sister and I were cracking jokes through the whole thing...". You pretty much begged to be made a moderator of this section, so the least you can do when you write a review is actually "watch" the movie and put a little more thought into it, or at the very least leave the important films for others to review. |
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Post by Bartwald on Apr 19, 2006 4:24:40 GMT -5
I must say I'm backing Heineken here. My very own rule is "never watch horror films at daylight OR with a bunch of cheerful friends"; it's easy to spoil even best horrors when you don't let yourself be sucked right into it, just like it is easy to spoil a comedy by breaking the news of somebody's fatal disease before pushing PLAY. I even obey this rule for minor horror films - like Decoys or, really!, Gingerdead Man - and I would never even dream of breaking it for a classic like The Exorcist. Laughing at The Exorcist means you decided to not fully experience one of the greatest horror classics. Why do that?
Of course, it doesn't mean that all classics work equally for me - I have problems with The Shining, The Hills Have Eyes or Bram Stoker's Dracula - but at least I gave them all a good chance to scare me.
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Apr 19, 2006 7:31:14 GMT -5
Exactly what I meant, Bart!
If you follow your rules, lights out, no joking friends, etc., then you're giving the film a chance to "work it's magic" on you.
To me, that's like people who say the're watching a movie, but they're also talking on the phone, doing household chores, getting snacks from the fridge every ten minutes, etc. How is that movie going to have any kind of effect on you if you've got all these other distractions going on? And that goes for any genre, not just horror.
Of course, with a comedy, I want as many cheerful friends over as possible. ;D
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Post by slayrrr666 on Apr 19, 2006 10:15:45 GMT -5
Just because of it's reputation, I'm supposed to be scared shitless while watching it? Sorry, I don't view films that way. I can call it unintenitally hilarious, and as long as I can back up that claim (which I did, no matter how "lame" the jokes may have been, and they were funny at the time we said them) That's still the way I felt about it. No, you're not supposed to be scared shitless because of it's reputation, but I think if it's the first time you're watching it, you are supposed to actually give the movie a chance to have an effect on you. I think if you're going to sit there cracking jokes through the whole thing, it very much defeats the purpose of what the movie's trying to do. And it's only "unintentionally hilarious" because you chose to view it with that Mystery Science Theater mentality and this movie clearly doesn't deserve that. There have been plenty of flicks that have been reviewed in this section that do deserve the MST3K treatment and you've shown them much more respect than this. If you had written something along the lines of, "I watched this film and didn't really find it all that effective and this is why..." then we could have an intelligent discussion about it, but you basically wrote, "I watched this movie and it's hilarious because my sister and I were cracking jokes through the whole thing...". You pretty much begged to be made a moderator of this section, so the least you can do when you write a review is actually "watch" the movie and put a little more thought into it, or at the very least leave the important films for others to review. Well, you do offer some good points there. That, in fact, was my first viewing of the movie, and the review was written after my first impression of the film. I belong to the school of "90% of your overall impression of a film is based on the first viewing," so there is the possibility for me to change it. Perhaps listening to it with the running commentary (which I haven't done yet) so the changes to the review will be done accordingly if that happens. I'm glad you brought that up. And as for the begging, I only said it once, at least six months before Bart named it to me, maybe more, and I never brought it up again. I don't call that begging. If writing a lot of reviews is begging, sorry, but I never out-and-out said it. |
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Post by Quorthon on Apr 19, 2006 12:31:51 GMT -5
I must say I'm backing Heineken here. My very own rule is "never watch horror films at daylight OR with a bunch of cheerful friends"; it's easy to spoil even best horrors when you don't let yourself be sucked right into it, just like it is easy to spoil a comedy by breaking the news of somebody's fatal disease before pushing PLAY. I even obey this rule for minor horror films - like Decoys or, really!, Gingerdead Man - and I would never even dream of breaking it for a classic like The Exorcist. Laughing at The Exorcist means you decided to not fully experience one of the greatest horror classics. Why do that? Of course, it doesn't mean that all classics work equally for me - I have problems with The Shining, The Hills Have Eyes or Bram Stoker's Dracula - but at least I gave them all a good chance to scare me. I follow that line of thinking for most horror flicks I view and whenever I play Resident Evil (any of the games) or Eternal Darkness on my Cube. In fact, playing RE or ED during the day--I just can't get into it. The few times I did play one of those games in the daylight, I had the curtains drawn and the room blackened out as much as possible. It's tough, though, because those games, especially RE4 and Eternal Darkness are very well made with the atmosphere and audio as well. Here's a fun story: Once, on a friday night, I was alone with nothing to do so I was playing Eternal Darkness. This was when the game was still new to me. It was late at night and I had the surround sound cranked. The atmosphere and bass rumbles were through the roof. Literally. I played for a couple hours straight into early morning--around 2am. Eventually, knock-knock-knock, three huge police officers were at my door for a noise complaint. They thought there was a party going on. When you cast a spell in the game, odd runic symbols form on the floor and a creepy voice roars out in the loudest of whispers the names of the runes. On top of that, and not including the effects from going insane, the game has some of the best, thickest, creepiest background sounds and atmosphere of most any game I've ever played. One stage takes place in a huge church during WWI in France. The ambient sound is non-stop shelling and explosions. Coupled with the fact that the Church has been transformed into a make-shift emergency field hospital with soldiers dying on their cots and demons lurking everywhere, you've got some of the thickest atmosphere of any horror game. Daylight or the wrong mindset would ruin the experience and do it no justice. Watching "From Hell" with a bunch of people around completely ruined the movie for me. Worse, the fact that we were all drinking made it unbearable. You think someone has a short attention span normally? The second they have a beer in their hand, they don't have one at all! |
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Post by Heineken Skywalker on Apr 20, 2006 17:11:25 GMT -5
And as for the begging, I only said it once, at least six months before Bart named it to me, maybe more, and I never brought it up again. I don't call that begging. If writing a lot of reviews is begging, sorry, but I never out-and-out said it. Okay, maybe "begged" was too harsh. You did only ask once, so I apologize for that. |
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Post by slayrrr666 on Apr 21, 2006 10:49:02 GMT -5
Apology accepted, man.
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Post by Quorthon on Apr 22, 2006 13:24:54 GMT -5
AAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!
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Post by Bartwald on Apr 27, 2006 2:11:39 GMT -5
Watching "From Hell" with a bunch of people around completely ruined the movie for me... Worry not, Quorth - I watched it in proper conditions and it sucked all the way. Just not a good film. |
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Post by Quorthon on Apr 28, 2006 13:43:12 GMT -5
Watching "From Hell" with a bunch of people around completely ruined the movie for me... Worry not, Quorth - I watched it in proper conditions and it sucked all the way. Just not a good film. The DVD we rented was also pretty scratched up. So it wasn't even playing well. When I returned it, I got a different copy telling them how craptacular the first one was. And when I rewatched it, it still didn't impress me. |
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